PCS union to strike in feb 2023

Does anyone know if the JCP will be effected by the 100,000 civil servants to strike on 1st Feb 2023.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/11/100000-uk-civil-servants-to-strike-on-1-february

Is that your signing day, Pintel?

Have you looked on the PCS website? At a guess, if a 100,000 civil servants are striking I suspect it will include DWP staff, unless your WC is a scab.

The DWP are having another strike day on 15th March.

https://www.pcs.org.uk/news-events/news/pcs-announces-escalation-strike-action-programme

Thanks #Ignatius. .
It just a shame my Roach' isn't a union member .

Call me selfish but! Hope that isn't going to interfere with my benefit payment due on the 14th March

Anything in the pipeline for March/April 2023.
As haven't heard there has been a breakthrough between the two parties?

That's as long as they make it to pension age....

I read that Jnr Doctors are going to have strike action. Just wondering if the JCP Roach's, will be sent in to cover during the dispute? As plenty of them seem to know more about medical/health issues than the Doctors (md) do! 🤪

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/24/junior-doctors-england-strike-three-days-march

Seems the next wave of strike action is on the
15 March....


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/27/tens-of-thousands-of-public-sector-workers-to-strike-on-15-march-over-pay

Pintel wrote:

I read that Jnr Doctors are going to have strike action. Just wondering if the JCP Roach's, will be sent in to cover during the dispute? As plenty of them seem to know more about medical/health issues than the Doctors (md) do! 🤪

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/24/junior-doctors-england-strike-three-days-march

After reading this article on 'Poor side of Life'. About 'Job Roach' to make decisions for disabled people' .

I can only apologise to the forum, as I posted about Roaches being deployed to cover the striking medical staff, as a joke ... Seems like a 'white paper' is to be constructed on this matter. If it does go ahead and Roaches to make decisions on people's health conditions, with no medical training. A 2x week course run by the DWP, isn't medical trainied to me . After this what next the 'Restart' scheme provider's, to take over the mantle, and prescribe medical advice ...


https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/work-coaches-with-no-gcses-could-decide-on-fit-for-work-activity-dwp-admits/

https://thepoorsideof.life/2023/05/05/dwp-job-coaches-with-no-academic-qualifications-to-potentially-make-life-changing-decisions-for-disabled-people/

I would like to think that this would never happen in this day and age, but...

I dread the consequences. SMHD.

I think wtf sums up my response to such a chilling, batshit proposal.

Whatever next? All claimants deregistered from their GP and instead have a WC responsible for their health needs??

Much as I agree with you #Ignatius.

You can see my dystopian-nightmare.... Work Roach', to decide on the severity of a claimant's health condition. JCP staff to be stationed in health/medical centres. Is it me or is there a trend here....

https://respectfulbenefits.forumotion.com/t4823-health-coach-s?highlight=Health

Well, we do have a national shortage of doctors, nurses but an abundance of WCs...

Have you ever thought of going into the consultancy business, Pintel? You could have made yourself a tidy sum selling your vision of WCs replacing qualified, professional, registered healthcare professionals to the government.

You have tumbled me #Ignatius 🤫. I was going to 'pitch' the concept of the department of Health, Work and Pensions (DHWP). But with all of the data sharing between the DWP & Health services. I seem to have been beaten to the post ...

Besides, how long before the W-Roach position/role is replaced by an AI algorithm ....

Talking about communicating with a Robot. It reminds me of the scene in 'Elysium' where Matt Damon talks to the Robot. Reminds me of some Roach' I have had in the past





https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=flLoSxd2nNY&pp=ygUZbWF0dCBkYW1vbiBlbHlzaXVtIHJvYm90IA%3D%3D

Ignatius wrote:Well, we do have a national shortage of doctors, nurses but an abundance of WCs...

On a sidetrack here, I keep hearing about national shortages of qualified staff in various sectors. I just wondered what employment-sectors are in abundance in the UK..?

With regards to an algorithm replacing WCs, remember Universal Jobmatch and some of the sinister features it had, like asking you to select a reason why you were not applying for a particular vacancy? That was just an invitation to dig a big hole for yourself.

When you think about what a WC actually does (when they're not busy saving lives by doubling up as doctors and nurses), AI could probably do their job now. When everyone is on UC there is no need for a claimants signature and claims could be theoretically managed digitally by a JCP anywhere in the country, there is probably even less need for them. But there is value to the DWP of having claimants in physical offices for the harassment value. Plus, does anyone really believe the DWP could procure a decent, functioning AI system?

I wonder if the future WC will have the jobsearch function of their role replaced by AI, and instead concentrate purely on helping/harassing to overcome their "barriers". The mooted idea of getting WCs to do health assessments does fit with that future views. Or providers will finally get their wish and take on even more JCP functions. Some of the Restart stuff, like provider job portals and micro managing participants lives suggest they are ramping up their efforts to replace JCPs.

Some good points there Ignatius . As you mentioned the JCP staffing levels could be 'streamlined', with less and less paperwork metaphorically speaking ( most records on the computers). Allowing them to focus upon 'helping/hararssing' of claimant's. Or diversifying there operations to make themselves 'look busy'....
As I've been told in many a workplace, when I had nothing better to do... A job creation scheme if you will...

Or as you also mentioned the WC's roles, are going to be 'out sourced' to Provider's. In a privatisation manner, due to underperforming or lack of expertise, as they have drifted away from their main purpose?

It does seem to me like the goalposts are being moved. So the WC's are doing themselves out of a job?

Pintel wrote: So the WC's are doing themselves out of a job?

So what do we do about this then?

You know I was more action than words in the past but you and times have changed. Nothing gets done anymore!

I have applied for 4 WC jobs now, through my Jobcentre and work roaches, Just to become a fully underpaid little diseased work roach who understands our side?!!!!! and be a whistleblower!
I can do that now!
How would you like me to be your undercover sanction, Work Roach??? With you?

They failed me every time. It was like they did not want me to be a work roach. It was like they knew I knew too much
That is the same complaint now and always was.


The sniffling, obnoxious, little, disease that they are with a superiority complex.
Would/could be me? I would be on our side.
gizza job
I can do this. Yes/No, I could not!
Obviously, I would have to sanction you because that would be the only way to contact you, to relay the changes in DWP Jobcentre gossip each week. How else would I grass on The DWP?




Fuck me. !!!!!!!!

What if We/you all tried together to get me a job as a work roach within the DWP?

I'm totally over qualified. Please help.

You wouldn't achieve anything by being a work roach or a whistleblower. Look at what they do with things that go against their agenda, such as the sanction report. They bury them and then quietly release while they distract people with some other bullshit.

Politics and politicians are the problem. We need genuine political reform and nothing will change in that regard because apathy is rife in this country. Even Labour have gone back on their no-sanction promise. Basically, we're all fucked.