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Post by echidna on Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:50 pm

Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree

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Where is the resentment against robots – the ultimate job stealers?

Post by echidna on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:05 am

Where is the resentment against robots – the ultimate job stealers?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/14/resentment-robots-job-stealers-arlie-hochschild

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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by Brutus on Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:20 am


Automation nad science are the great helpers of humanity.
However humanity itself is also its worst enemy.
We could have done so much better in our brief history on the planet but still there is time to fight to better ourselves.
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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by El-dudeareno on Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:50 pm

"One in three workers believe their job will be automated in the next decade but many are not being offered new skills to prepare them for changes to the world of work, according to a study."

It seem this people havent heard about the "Work & Health Program". Which well help more people into work, over the next decade????   No   pale


https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/04/10/one-in-three-workers-believe-their-job-will-be-automated-in-next/

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/work-health-and-disability-improving-lives/work-health-and-disability-green-paper-plain-english-version
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Post by Caker on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:15 pm

.....let us hope the machines take the unpleasant jobs and leave the better ones for humans to do.
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We should be pleased that robots are taking over some of our old jobs

Post by echidna on Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:00 pm


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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by El-dudeareno on Mon May 14, 2018 2:58 pm

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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by Brutus on Wed May 16, 2018 12:35 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOD--tBOoHM


Still few humans around (but they are part of the future class of "technicians" the ones that will inherit the world!!)
But the writing is on the wall...



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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by El-dudeareno on Thu May 17, 2018 1:59 pm

Interesting @Brutus, I was wondering one point thou. Where do these 'technicians' fit in with the Neoliberalism model, as I thought there was just the Elites & the Serfs, not like the Pyramid of Capitalistism. Basketball




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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by Brutus on Wed May 23, 2018 1:41 am


in my opinion the ""class of the technicians" will be the ultimate winners.
We see a start of it in the more successful representatives, for instance the high-tech business magnates.

At the moment their essential services are well remunerated but eventually the stupidity and greed of the older  retainers will force them on a path to the realisation that they hold the means of coercion in society.

To us the main advantage will be that as a "ruling class" they will be more rational and will have no problem in implementing things like UBI as means of lessening disruptive tensions in the social construct.

They'll likely be the last collective group, I am oversimplifying here of course, to  hold power in society.
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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by El-dudeareno on Wed May 23, 2018 11:10 am

I hear what you are saying @Brutus. As you mentioned "in my opinion the ""class of the technicians" will be the ultimate winners.". However, won't these 'Technician caste', also eventually end up on the scrap heap of existence to. Due to improvement in technology, therefore there need will become less important  Shocked .
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Robots creating a wages and employment 'death spiral' warns IMF

Post by echidna on Wed May 23, 2018 11:44 am

Robots creating a wages and employment 'death spiral' warns IMF
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-23/we-should-fear-robots-says-imf/9786460

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Robots Could Be Key To Managing Australia's Ageing Population

Post by echidna on Wed May 23, 2018 11:46 am


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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by Brutus on Thu May 24, 2018 5:11 am

El-dudeareno wrote:I hear what you are saying @Brutus. As you mentioned "in my opinion the ""class of the technicians" will be the ultimate winners.". However, won't these 'Technician caste', also eventually end up on the scrap heap of existence to. Due to improvement in technology, therefore there need will become less important  Shocked .


Yes, absolutely correct.
However they will not be replaced by other human "castes". It will be the end of our domination (or mistreatment of the planet, more likely...) and the birth of a new form of dominant intelligence.
Either that or "planetary apoptosis" of sort.
As I see things, these are the only two outcomes of any technological civilization.
These are however things that will develop in the next few hundred oyears (more likely faster than predictions allow, because of the exponential increase in scientific and technological advances).
Far from being disturbed by this vision of things to come I see it as a natural continuation of the evolutionary progress of life.

We should perhaps wean out of our anthropocentric perception of the world, we are just tools of planetary life either to good or deleterious ends.
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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by El-dudeareno on Fri May 25, 2018 10:39 am

On a side point thou @Brutus, do you think there might be a rise in a new Amish style communities in the world, where people reject any sort of interaction with AI/Robotics’. While they will never be able to compete on financial way against these machines. However, they might find an alternative lifestyle suits them?  Basketball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
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Will Automation Make The Cost Of Living Cheaper?

Post by echidna on Sat May 26, 2018 12:34 pm


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Re: Robots will take our jobs. We’d better plan now, before it’s too late

Post by Brutus on Tue May 29, 2018 3:02 am

El-dudeareno wrote:On a side point thou @Brutus, do you think there might be a rise in a new Amish style communities in the world, where people reject any sort of interaction with AI/Robotics’. While they will never be able to compete on financial way against these machines. However, they might find an alternative lifestyle suits them?  Basketball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz


Possible but unlikely.

Not so much because of the threat of violence, a time honoured tradition of our species, but simply because intelligence, even if actively repressed, will eventually find a path along the evolutive advantage that created it in the first place.
For example women, in most historical and some contemporary, societies have been actively dehumanized by attempting to suppress their intellect. Still, in spite of centuries of male dominated attempts, they are as potentially intelligent as anyone. They did not remain a stable, subservient strata in society.

So even if all the word would renounce knowledge and retreat to a less technological form of social interchange, if would be only a matter of time before this or that group would take home the advantages of using a better understanding on how to manipulate the world. Advantages that will make them fitter than their neighbours, etc.
Retreat from knowledge and intelligence has happen several times in human history, but still resulted in only an unstable condition.
It may last centuries or even millennia, but renouncing the fulfillment of logic will still be a temporary hiatus on the way to fulfill our evolutionary destiny.

The alternative, quite feasible and much more probable would be inevitable extinction.
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This City Could Lose A Third Of Its Jobs To Robots - Here's Its Plan To Fight Back

Post by echidna on Wed May 30, 2018 1:55 pm

This City Could Lose A Third Of Its Jobs To Robots - Here's Its Plan To Fight Back
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/robots-jobs-sunderland-north-east_uk_5b0439c1e4b0c0b8b23ea14d?utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

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Robots To Destroy 2.9m Working Class Jobs - And Tory Seats Will Be Hit Hardest

Post by echidna on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:36 pm


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Rise of robots 'could destroy 3 MILLION working class jobs in UK' - that's FIVE times more than Thatcher

Post by echidna on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:37 pm

Rise of robots 'could destroy 3 MILLION working class jobs in UK' - that's FIVE times more than Thatcher
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rise-robots-could-destroy-3-12658178

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Robots And Algorithms Are Likely To Automate Workplaces At A Frenzied Pace

Post by echidna on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:39 pm

Robots And Algorithms Are Likely To Automate Workplaces At A Frenzied Pace
http://www.sharecafe.com.au/michael_collins.asp?a=AV&ai=48835

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Is the UK ready for the automation of jobs?

Post by echidna on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:42 pm


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The robots probably aren’t coming for your job, but AI is the future of content marketing

Post by echidna on Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:52 pm

The robots probably aren’t coming for your job, but AI is the future of content marketing
https://www.clickz.com/the-robots-probably-arent-coming-for-your-job-but-ai-is-the-future-of-content-marketing/214976/

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THE FIGHT OF THE CENTURY: MAN VERSUS MACHINE

Post by echidna on Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:53 pm


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Construction Robotics Industry Set to Double by 2023

Post by echidna on Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:55 pm


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