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Post by designergas Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:57 pm

Updated "Restart guidance" dated 19th April surely this isn't allowed read chapter 7.51, 7.54 and
7.56
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restart-provider-guidance/restart-scheme-provider-guidance#chapter-7---data-and-information-sharing-with-dwp

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Post by Ignatius Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:32 pm

The SAR or RAR stuff is a pain. Some information is the DWPs domain and they usually release it. Records of your Restart meetings etc are probably not in the DWPs system so the provider is responsible for those. What tends to happen is a provider and DWP will each say it's not their responsibility and send you backwards and forwards. I know very little about data protection law but these issues can be commonplace where there are different bodies managing/using their data. Hopefully someone who does understand data protection law will come along.

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Post by designergas Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:38 pm

Ignatius wrote:The SAR or RAR stuff is a pain. Some information is the DWPs domain and they usually release it. Records of your Restart meetings etc are probably not in the DWPs system so the provider is responsible for those. What tends to happen is a provider and DWP will each say it's not their responsibility and send you backwards and forwards. I know very little about data protection law but these issues can be commonplace where there are different bodies managing/using their data. Hopefully someone who does understand data protection law will come along.

Some experts need to look into this latest guidance... DWP are making the rules up now Chapter 7.58 dwp cannot say yes or no if a participant's personal data is deleted from a third party company. This Goes the same with signing provider contract paperwork under GDPR.


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Post by Pintel Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:31 pm

On the link #designergas provided. Under 6:10 Unacceptable Behaviour:

Unacceptable Behaviour
6.10. Participants on the Restart Scheme have a responsibility to behave in an appropriate manner just as they would if they were in employment. You should explain what constitutes appropriate behaviour as part of the induction.
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🥵. We consider the following as examples of unacceptable behaviour (this list is not exhaustive):

violence
verbal abuse, including that of a sexual or racist nature
threats, which are implied or otherwise;
intimidation
sexual innuendo
harassment
unwelcome attention
attempted or actual assaults
inappropriate use of the internet or provider’s IT system.

🍅 I wonder does the Retread staff also have a definitive list of Unacceptable Behaviours. As there doesn't seem to be any. A few suggestions: Bullying (Physical or Psychological), False Allegations of Behaviour/Conduct, Altering of Official records, etc etc..
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Post by oneman Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:43 pm

I'm an "expert" on "Unacceptable Behaviours" against Restart if they need a consultant.
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Post by designergas Sun May 05, 2024 10:50 pm

Like I said, I heard nothing back getting data erased under GDPR, all down to the PRaP earnings system for 547 days. 
Next, universal credit How on earth is DWP allowed to monitor your incoming wages with HMRC data sharing for an extra six months even though you signed off UC DWP has no fucking rights how much you earn if your not receiving any state benefits with JSA? Your claim will be shut down within 5 working days. I think all data sharing stops with HMRC.

DWP is just lawless, and we all wonder why they wanted everyone to universal credit systems this does really need looking into. With GDPR regulations etc


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Post by designergas Sun May 05, 2024 10:54 pm

Pintel wrote:On the link #designergas provided. Under 6:10 Unacceptable Behaviour:

Unacceptable Behaviour
6.10. Participants on the Restart Scheme have a responsibility to behave in an appropriate manner just as they would if they were in employment. You should explain what constitutes appropriate behaviour as part of the induction.
🥎

🥵. We consider the following as examples of unacceptable behaviour (this list is not exhaustive):

violence
verbal abuse, including that of a sexual or racist nature
threats, which are implied or otherwise;
intimidation
sexual innuendo
harassment
unwelcome attention
attempted or actual assaults
inappropriate use of the internet or provider’s IT system.

🍅 I wonder does the Retread staff also have a definitive list of Unacceptable Behaviours. As there doesn't seem to be any. A few suggestions: Bullying (Physical or Psychological), False Allegations of Behaviour/Conduct, Altering of Official records, etc etc..

Only works one way they bully us; we cannot defend ourselves. This is why we record everything from phone calls to face-to-face appointments, gather as much evidence as possible. 

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