Restart for JSA claimants

Intincroi wrote:Just to clarify that I've no idea who the actual employer is yet, even my work coach didn't know when I asked them when signing on.  My coach spoke to me as though I'd spoken to Restart about it - I said hang on, I've no clue what this is about who is it for? This is when the I had the rug completely taken away from my feet and being told about having my travel costs paid for three months - no wonder, as it's nearly 1.5 hours on the bus, something else I will mention at the interview.

It's all very well them wanting to put me forward for the shittiest jobs on the planet.  But I have to be happy in the job or I'll just end up on benefits again.  This is something they seem to agree on, but continue to hassle me with shit at each session.

Regarding the mandatory activity, I wish I'd thought of that.  But I was getting a lot of "I don't see why you can't do this" and "I'm going to recommend you for this" vibes from the joke shop coach.  I don't cope very well under pressure and already had a bad morning with Restart, so I just buckled.

Cunts.  Absolute cunts.  (Sorry to any ladies!)

Did they pull up the 90 minutes travel dwp bullshit with you my advisor did this twice told her takes me 30 minutes to walk to the train station next 80 minutes train ride most of time they back down cannot argue back...

Nearly 1 1/2 hours on the bus? How long from your house to the bus stop and from bus stop to employers? It sounds like this could exceed the 90 minutes travel to work time rules. A good reason why you need the employers details asap. If the door to door journey is 90 minutes or more even a WC cannot mandate you to apply.

How can you prepare for an interview if you don't know the job/employer details? Use that against them. Request the details to show you are taking the interview seriously but they are so inept they don't think giving you this information promptly is an important.

I forgot to mention that today I quite conveniently got a "how happy were you with the service?" text from Restart and asked to rate them from 1 to 5. Without a single thought I rated them a 1 and the automated service asked why - so I replied about the advisors making my known health conditions worse. I expect the manager will phone up tomorrow trying to appease me, before giving me all the excuses under the sun.

Ignatius wrote:Nearly 1 1/2 hours on the bus? How long from your house to the bus stop and from bus stop to employers? It sounds like this could exceed the 90 minutes travel to work time rules. A good reason why you need the employers details asap. If the door to door journey is 90 minutes or more even a WC cannot mandate you to apply.

How can you prepare for an interview if you don't know the job/employer details? Use that against them. Request the details to show you are taking the interview seriously but they are so inept they don't think giving you this information promptly is an important.

That was using Google Maps, which took into account the walking times too. That's providing the buses actually turn up on time.

I'm going to try and keep out of their sight for now, as I don't want them to remember to put me forward for this interview. I'm counting on their ineptitude and forgetting.

Don't beat yourself up for forgetting to ask if this was a mandatory activity. It's hard to think like that if they're stressing you out. Instead, train yourself to ask is this mandatory and what does the provider guidance say every time they suggest something. It will become your default way of thinking soon enough.

The 90min rule is from when you leave your house and includes any walking and waiting for buses. They tend to ignore these facts or just lie to you but good old Frank Zola pulled them up on this many years ago.

Good thing if anyone here not living in manchester using the restart you cannot blame anything on the travel their travel network is top notch train,metrolink,buses always 2 minutes away one thing i like about Manchester is the travelling easy to get to places but restart is a big no no.

All depends on where you live my area is a pain in the ass takes minutes to walk to the train station take million of steps getting to the next destination that is only 15 miles away earliest buses and trains in my area is 6.50am I turned down plenty restart jobs at the beginning that was only 4,5,6 miles away due to the mission getting to it even the employer turn down my offer advisor put me forward to a role at 7am told the employer I might have problems coming into the 7am shift due to my first bus at 6.50am he said that fine most employers want local people.

Try this excuse I did this twice worked wonders but my excuse was legit isn't made up i had bus timetables and train tables provided to the advisor and work coach both back down didn't put me forward to the jobs make sure you get your employer details address from the restart and take it from there if they offer you a early morning start like 5am your onto a winner if there no public transport at your given location just beware they might try and get you a bike to travel to work..

Your problem would be solved if you were on UC Coconutxone .   Lol.  Are you familiar with these:

Rusholme
96 Wilmslow Road, Rusholme, Manchester, M14 5BJ
Manchester Mosley Street
58 Mosley Street, Manchester M2 3HZ.

"DWP will use £1.3m robot to find people jobs in latest Universal Credit crackdown"
This needs its own thread really.

Don't rely on Google to tell you travel times. Time yourself walking to the bus stop/station, add the journey time from the timetable, the walking from when you get off to the employer and the waiting time.

Is this robot going to drag people out of bed and into jobs, or is it an algorithm which will match people to jobs? I predict jobseekers will get no benefit from it but the private company behind it will be quids in.

It's already got its own thread.

I wonder how it worked out?

https://respectfulbenefits.forumotion.com/t4776-the-ai-career-coach-called-bob-re-dwp-will-use-1-3m-robot-to-find-people-jobs-in-latest-universal-credit-crackdown

Rofi
Went into to restart office today also after two months retard advisor questioned me why haven't you provided us the employer details whips out his notebook thinking he some sort of ex-copper god the people are hilarious told him listen buddy no point getting this information off me now could be finishing this job soon by lying to him and said new job on the way yet again he whips out his notepad says details please fucking hell these people told him to get stuffed here we go around in circles yet again fucking bastard even took me to a room like interview room with doors hoping i give up the information jesus crisis these parasites.
My advisor spends more time seeking information from me than actually than help me settle down or support me into my new job sometimes i feel im being interviewed at my local police station.

I must admit my recent session at Restart felt a bit like a police interview and us going round in circles too. I'm expecting the manager to call me tomorrow, full of crap and excuses and trying to lube me up for the next session.

I did notice that my advisor came over once or twice while I was in the so called job club - which was sat at a large table with other people. At first the person in job club took quite a shitty attitude to everybody when questioning them. For example one person didn't know their login details as they aren't good with phones and computer and the advisor quite abruptly asked how they did their job search. With me it was my login details which I explained was a 64-character password that they were free to guess - which is why I just said I'll apply at home and wrote down a list for them to wank off to.

Years ago when I was sent to a random provider, the advisor wanted to photograph the front and back of my BANK CARD. I picked up my bag and walked out straight away.

Intincroi, I would regard a call from the manager as a good thing. Getting to waste the bosses time is always a result. Or don't answer the phone to Restart if you are not expecting a call from them. If it's important they can leave you a message.

Why on earth did they want to photograph your bankcard?? You're on benefits, you can't be worth an id scam. Sorry, I forgot, providers are thick and will steal anything.

I really do feel for you guys and gals still on this Restart crap. Intincroi, I don't know what your work history is, so I can't comment on what job they have for you. I know I must have had it easy on this rubbish as I have no CV, no work history to speak of, no driving licence, no experience in 99.5% of jobs and going from school to the dole queue and still on benefits at 46 so nearly 30 years out of work. Even these Restart gimps know that an employer is not going to hire me most would think i've done 25 years or more in jail as i've been unemployed longer then some lifers have served for murder and I have no work history to check up on, I have nothing to offer and they knew that so I was parked up. I think that's how Restart get you if you have work history say you've done this and that. I just hope you don't get the job. I think you will be OK. Just don't turn up with a can of beer as I think they will know your taking the mick.

Literally you ask restart you want to start your own business self-employed they will need your *bank statement*passport, driving licence*business name *pictures what your selling*profits your making each month provided this over to your advisor she/he will hand it over to the business team probably a to make a claim they started your business up literally people give this sensitive information over to them and not question them why the fuck you required all this shit.

Ignatius wrote:Intincroi, I would regard a call from the manager as a good thing. Getting to waste the bosses time is always a result. Or don't answer the phone to Restart if you are not expecting a call from them. If it's important they can leave you a message.

I must admit I have thought later on today that perhaps speaking to the manager isn't a good thing and may only jog memories. As you say, if it's important they can leave a message. I have the manager's number saved in my contacts so he can get through - I will be blocking unknown numbers tomorrow, to hell with the lot of them. I've got higher priorities on my list right now that Restart don't have an inkling about and I'm glad they don't, otherwise they'd try stir some dirt with the joke shop with that too.

fordcortina1970 wrote:Intincroi, I don't know what your work history is, so I can't comment on what job they have for you. I know I must have had it easy on this rubbish as I have no CV, no work history to speak of, no driving licence, no experience in 99.5% of jobs and going from school to the dole queue and still on benefits at 46 so nearly 30 years out of work. Even these Restart gimps know that an employer is not going to hire me most would think i've done 25 years or more in jail as i've been unemployed longer then some lifers have served for murder and I have no work history to check up on, I have nothing to offer and they knew that so I was parked up. I think that's how Restart get you if you have work history say you've done this and that. I just hope you don't get the job. I think you will be OK. Just don't turn up with a can of beer as I think they will know your taking the mick.

It's funny you say that, because the line manager said I probably would never get a job in one of the roles they suggested for me - not to mention I am forcing them to find me a niche in that category, due to my health condition.

When I come off this Restart course, I'm genuinely thinking about speaking to my doctor for more mental health. What doesn't kill you make you stronger right? But it also takes a toll on you.

Intincroi wrote:

Ignatius wrote:Intincroi, I would regard a call from the manager as a good thing. Getting to waste the bosses time is always a result. Or don't answer the phone to Restart if you are not expecting a call from them. If it's important they can leave you a message.

I must admit I have thought later on today that perhaps speaking to the manager isn't a good thing and may only jog memories.   As you say, if it's important they can leave a message.  I have the manager's number saved in my contacts so he can get through - I will be blocking unknown numbers tomorrow, to hell with the lot of them.  I've got higher priorities on my list right now that Restart don't have an inkling about and I'm glad they don't, otherwise they'd try stir some dirt with the joke shop with that too.

fordcortina1970 wrote:Intincroi, I don't know what your work history is, so I can't comment on what job they have for you. I know I must have had it easy on this rubbish as I have no CV, no work history to speak of, no driving licence, no experience in 99.5% of jobs and going from school to the dole queue and still on benefits at 46 so nearly 30 years out of work. Even these Restart gimps know that an employer is not going to hire me most would think i've done 25 years or more in jail as i've been unemployed longer then some lifers have served for murder and I have no work history to check up on, I have nothing to offer and they knew that so I was parked up. I think that's how Restart get you if you have work history say you've done this and that. I just hope you don't get the job. I think you will be OK. Just don't turn up with a can of beer as I think they will know your taking the mick.

It's funny you say that, because the line manager said I probably would never get a job in one of the roles they suggested for me - not to mention I am forcing them to find me a niche in that category, due to my health condition.

When I come off this Restart course, I'm genuinely thinking about speaking to my doctor for more mental health.  What doesn't kill you make you stronger right? But it also takes a toll on you.

I literally had the same shit like you had enough with all the bullshit and stress just for £86 a week sourced myself a few hour a week job funny shit is told my advisor today ain't coming in no benefits from JCP she said you must do it by law or face repercussions sanctions text back what sanctions? she mentioned action plan need to be reviewed big fat NO. what the point attending for little to no money and get fucking abused only way these fuckers parasite making money out me is forcing or mandating me into applying for a restart role so they can claim payment also I can actually sense this is coming getting upto 20 jobs sent to my email inbox weekly now all full time restart roles bastards going for the kill for quick cash...

Also in my own head i want to surf out the remaining 4 months on restart and not get put back on when i sign back onto benefits in the future cannot be ass doing another 12 months of this gash scheme maybe not turn up for the next 3 months and ride out with any sanctions to burn time and just turn up on the last month.

Anyone have any idea what can do with me?

Very hard one this.

Ignatius wrote:Intincroi, I would regard a call from the manager as a good thing. Getting to waste the bosses time is always a result. Or don't answer the phone to Restart if you are not expecting a call from them. If it's important they can leave you a message.

i stopped answering text,emails,phone calls don't give them evidence friend said NO to job by email advisor forward the email to work coach straight away boom she had to explain herself best keep that mouth shut these people are not your friend.

Well the cunts have set me up for an induction with the employer tomorrow - which begins at 7am! I'm told they will provide me with suitable footwear and taxis there and back for three months.

Looking at Google maps, there are no buses that get there and back for 7am or 7pm, which is roughly when the rotating shifts start and end. The manager doesn't even know what they will do, other than "look at our options". Yeah, fuck off.

Talk about completely the wrong job for me, the environment doesn't look suitable for my health. It's not very accessible via public transport which I would rely on.

I've said that I will raise all my queries and doubts with the employer tomorrow at this so-called induction. The manager said that this wouldn't look good for me from the employer's point of view. I said tough, I feel forced into doing this so that's what I'm doing.

Have you actually volunteered to go Intincroi?