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Post by Pintel Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:13 pm

Just for clarity here #Oneman. 🤔

Has the countdown timer ⏳been started yet? As I understand the 'Restart'Scheme' is for 12x months. But ensure if you have started your sentence????

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Post by oneman Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:17 pm

Had to ask at the first appointment to rescheduled as it did not fit with my personal or tailored to suit circumstances. This they did not do and unlawfully continued to proceed to ask questions that I did not volunteer to do.
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Post by oneman Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:55 am

Been on the work programme for 5 weeks now. Had 2 meetings about an hour in total. Had 3 rescheduled due to unlawfully mandation and asked for another reschedule yesterday. (No reply yet) it will probably be next week when it coincides with my booster jab and be rescheduled to the week after when I'm off sick for two weeks. I only need 8 weeks until they must review my non existing action plan and they will not be able to continue after that.
I've already done 4 years on the work programme. This will be 5 years so stringing things out for another year will be a doddle. I will not be going back untill the next time I'm mandated by DWP. I may even get a job in the mean time.😂
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Post by Brutus Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:13 pm

Nearly all of the useful training stopped during the "Thatcher's years" when, hitherto public run training programs, were privatised.
Most given away at incredible discount or even  subsidised to ad hoc made-up firms (usually the managers of training schemes, that forked out into private venture).
They were after a short time, dismembered and the equipment sold for scrap, and eventually the only ones that remained were the ones that employed no equipment and provided no content or skill (looking for work training, interview techniques, etc).
All of them in order to provide cronies of the political parties in government with an easy revenue.
When I was enslaved in a work program for a year I took advantage of the incredible maximised margin of profit the companies involved were trying to achieve, their network of barely literate subcontractors, and the wilful ignorance ignorance employed by the JC monitoring, by making up referee placement letters, that they where not able to place in their ramshackle bureaucratic organisational tree.
In this way I managed to be transferred in a more liveable indenture.
In retrospective I think I could have even created an entire fictional work program placement without the JC ever realising it.
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:49 pm

DWP assessment contracts will see another £2 billion handed to outsourcing giants

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-assessment-contracts-will-see-another-2-billion-handed-to-outsourcing-giants/

What a total waste of tax payers money.
Its been shown many times companies involved with WP WHP etc cant deliver and further, inmates forced onto this circus are far from happy Evil or Very Mad and never will be; when being forced, to train for something they no doubt dont have 1 jot of interest in.

More info here on how much is being spent 2020.
https://www.capita.com/news/capita-appointed-to-dwp-employment-and-health-framework



As for the WHP WCA circus that really is a total P take. I mean, who in their right mind currently being looked after by an NHS professional/GP, would let a half skilled person or most likely even worse, deal with their health issues. I know i wouldn't Evil or Very Mad .

I would urge anyone currently on the WHP to question precisely the medical qualifications of the people delivering the 'service Twisted Evil .' If they cant supply relevant NHS medical qualifications, id go straight into an official complaint with an MP. They should not be aloud to look at peoples medical history or even discuss such things outside of a drs room imo. Their all sure as hell not Drs or qualified NHS nurses etc. As everyone knows, there is a MAJOR shortage of Drs & nurses in this country. Maybe!! their all now working on the WHP Evil or Very Mad

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Post by oneman Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:23 pm

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Post by oneman Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:18 pm

Sanctioned today. £10.60 per day. They have taken single rate instead of couples claim because they are fucking idiots. So £74.20 deduction from the £58.73 pound I get, leaves -£15.47 per week. where are they going to deduct that from.😂
I have asked for a reconsideration to the DM about the sanction and provided further info/evidence. Also got a bonus of an extra 7 days sanction because I have not been sanctioned in the last 12 months. Lucky me.
Hardship payments will not be granted until I attend the unlawfully mandated appointment that I have complained about but has just been ignored by people plus and the DM in the first instance.
This is all part of the game. And has been done many times.
The big question is will this get resolved before or after tribunal?
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Post by Pintel Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:24 pm

I was wondering as #Brutus post mentioned of 'useful training'. Is it possible to audit how these Billions of pounds💰 are being spent?🤔on this scheme. By these 'training provider's'. I thought if a company is 'Plc' (public limited company) the financial information is public? While I understand PowerPoint presentation projectors arent cheap. But I'd bet the Tax Payers Alliance, would like a breakdown of the Billions spent? And how much is squandered on 'corporate hospitality' etc...confused


https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/our_mission

https://www.theformationscompany.com/knowledge-base/what-is-a-public-limited-company-plc
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Post by oneman Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:52 pm

After asking people plus to confirm that the information they provided in the reply to my complaint is true as my recorded evidence says different. They sent this reply.

Good afternoon.

I have been passed your email that you have sent to xxxx xxxx below.

Having received no communication from you and you failing to attend your appointment, your record has been marked as failed to attend and is now closed and you are no longer a participant with us on the Restart Scheme.

I would therefore kindly ask that any further concerns you have around your claim, or requirements set by your Work Coach are instead directed to JCP.
Kind regards
The appointment mentioned was the unlawful mandated appointment that I complained about but they refused to answer my questions and would not change it.

That Is one down. Very Happy

Now that the open ended part of the sanction can't be completed then they must stop it or overturn it (it's at reconcider stage at the moment.)
They must at least let me apply for the hardship loan.
As all the evidence I gave at mandatory reconsideration stage was DWP legislation and the two FOI replies from DWP posted on here (thanks for that) then I fail to see how they can not overturn it as they will be contradicting themselves and their legislation.

What do you think?
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Post by oneman Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:11 pm

Job centre has been on the phone and apparently people plus can't close my case as it breaks their contract with the DWP. What the f** k happens now?
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Post by oneman Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:21 pm

Anyone remember the article about the new restart programme where city & guilds are asked to comment, and they are quite condescending about them?
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Post by Pintel Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:10 pm

oneman wrote:Job centre has been on the phone and apparently people plus can't close my case as it breaks their contract with the DWP. What the f** k happens now?

WTF I was under the impression that you where not even ' enrolled on the program #Oneman 🤨.
Sounds to me like "Short Selling" (selling something that isn't owned by the individual). Isn't it called ' Fraud in legal terms? 🤬...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_short_selling
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:10 am

oneman wrote:Sanctioned today. £10.60 per day. They have taken single rate instead of couples claim because they are fucking idiots. So £74.20 deduction from the £58.73 pound I get, leaves -£15.47 per week. where are they going to deduct that from.😂
I have asked for a reconsideration to the DM about the sanction and provided further info/evidence. Also got a bonus of an extra 7 days sanction because I have not been sanctioned in the last 12 months. Lucky me.
Hardship payments will not be granted until I attend the unlawfully mandated appointment that I have complained about but has just been ignored by people plus and the DM in the first instance.
This is all part of the game. And has been done many times.
The big question is will this get resolved before or after tribunal?


Sorry to have read that oneman. Sanctions are the pits and bet they just love to apply it at this time of year. Twisted Evil
It would not surprise me if these morons drag this out as long as possible. Probably get off on the financial pain it causes people.

Of course, by them doing this, will no doubt inspire you to [get into work quicker and remain in it for longer. Laughing ] That has to be the biggest bullshit slogan I've ever heard in my life Laughing  Twisted Evil




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Post by oneman Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:50 pm

Unfortunately my sanction has just been overturned on a technicality.

Bollox! I was looking forward to my day at tribunal. Now we will never know. Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Pintel Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:35 pm

oneman wrote:Unfortunately my sanction has just been overturned on a technicality.

Bollox! I was looking forward to my day at tribunal. Now we will never know. Evil or Very Mad

I am sorry to hear that #Oneman. Can't you appeal against there judgement. 😋

Also if you don't mind me asking, what was the 'Technicality'🔬. As from what I read it was a complete shambles ⚰, from start to 🏁 finish????


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Post by oneman Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:40 pm

They would not say! It's just their way of saying that they had not broken any legislation rules.
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Post by Pintel Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:11 pm

oneman wrote:They would not say! It's just their way of saying that they had not broken any legislation rules.



Yet you received a sanction penalty! You could be justified in an independent investigation? 🤔... Standards in public office? As you did nothing wrong #Oneman, there the ones making it up as they go along.

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Post by oneman Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:45 pm

I think that the technical issue was the fact that people plus had broken their contract with the DWP by taking me off their books after the sanction.
My work roach was shocked/surprised when I told him and the manager said she had been in discussions with people plus head honchos.
I got my work roach removed as he was incapable of helping me. He just kept repeating " you have to 're engage with the work programme to stop the sanction"
And "you will not get hardship payments until you re engage with restart"
Obviously that was impossible to do as I had no contract with them as they had cancelled it.
So I guess I stirred up a lot of shit for them.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:43 pm

That roach sounded like a real bully jobsworth.

Well done oneman for sticking it to those clowns.

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Post by oneman Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:58 pm

When I first spoke to him he was like "How can I HELP YOU"
Turns out he could not. He was just a sheep with no legs. A YES man going nowhere. A man with no balls to make a decision by himself without crying to his boss.
He was one of the nicer ones I have had but he was incompetent so he had to go with an official complaint and a disciplinary hearing.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:02 pm

Seems like their favourite trick questions oneman.
How can I help you, how are you. All lead to invites to hell. 😈

I only met one nice roach. And that was on just one occasion. She left the next week😂. See her on my bus recently and told me, she despised the place. Her words, "a numbers game to send sheep to provider companies if they cant find appropriate low paid 'work'. I said yes, as we all know. All work is good for you they like many to think 🤔😈.

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Post by oneman Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:05 pm

The cunts won't pay me back untill the DM has written in my journal that they fucked up. Sorry. That they had a technical issue, with!
This DM is the same cunt that had to be corrected 3 times by me! until he got the right sanction amount right!😠😠😠😠😠😠
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm

Just typical oneman. Anything for excuse for them to play scrooge Jan -Dec Twisted Evil

Hope they cough up ASAP.

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Post by MightyQunit Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:27 pm

Can you beat this restart crap by stopping your claim for 29 days, then claim again and the 12 month eligibility period starts again.

You could with the WHP programme, any breaks in claims of 29 days reset the 24 month eligibility period.

Anyone know if Restart is the same, I imagine it is?, looks like a rebadge of WHP.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:20 pm

Hi MightyQunit,

Your right, this "restart" will be just another rebadged bundle of crap dressed up as "we know how to get you all working for as close to nothing as we can get. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad "

You might find an answer here:

https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/restart/

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