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Post by El-dudeareno on Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:37 pm

Four million jobs in the British private sector could be replaced by robots in the next decade, according to business leaders asked about the future of automation and artificial intelligence.



This is not good news for us on the Dole then is it  Crying or Very sad .

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/19/robots-could-take-4m-private-sector-jobs-within-10-years
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Post by Caker on Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:26 pm

Perhaps there should be a tax on robots as clearly there will be fewer humans paying tax on wages. Neutral
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Re: Robots taking jobs.

Post by Brutus on Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:27 am


 It is time for UBI.

The way it will be "financed" is not that relevant in the contest of the word global technological revolution.
The very concept of money, finance, budgets, etc is going to be shaken to its very foundations as technology will be able to provide those things that money cannot buy.

It is the dilemma of the autocrat, or if one prefers the "Macbethian King Midas that ended up having all the gold he wanted, but nothing to spend it on, or anyone to enjoy it with".
What the point of having riches and power when the word one yields a quality of life that is worse than that of a poor in a freer society?

Eventually robots, people and AI will have to be accommodated in a society that is pleasant enough to be liveable and provide hope for a future.

In many ways it is a critical time for the human world, a time that requires a social evolution of a magnitude unprecedented in history. A new Enlightenment but it will not be easy.

Attempting to look beyond the certainties we have become accustomed to think as concrete is something will be all forced to engage in as the present model of society is on a terminal path to ruin.

Great changes are afoot and robots and taxes are only a small part of it.
 
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Re: Robots taking jobs.

Post by El-dudeareno on Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:58 am

I hear what you are saying Brutus. I was wondering how long before a 'Robotic-Luddite movement' start to  rise up against these changes cyclops . And maybe we should get to know more about these creations, "It is a wise father that knows his own child."  jocolor


https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamsha118142.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite


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Post by El-dudeareno on Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:05 pm

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Post by El-dudeareno on Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:55 am

And so the story continues. "Robots could destabilise world through war and unemployment, says UN"...   What a Face

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/27/robots-destabilise-world-war-unemployment-un

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Post by El-dudeareno on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:42 am

"UK’s poorest to fare worst in age of automation, thinktank warns".

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/28/uks-poorest-to-fare-worst-in-age-of-automation-thinktank-warns

"The report said increased automation of activities would help to lift productivity levels and therefore could be used to pay for higher wages, acting to offset some of the £290bn in wages lost to machines. But if automation is managed poorly, it could lead to greater concentration of wealth for those at the top and a wider gap with the poorest in society. "

However, I feel the ones at the top will not be listening to this report? No Also it mentions £290 Billion in wages, roughly how much tax will the State lose with this void of job loses? scratch
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Post by Caker on Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:52 pm

I take issue with the notion that work gives identity and purpose; that may be true in a fulfilling career role but it does not apply to all jobs. Some jobs are just a source of income and nothing else.

Boles is writing from his position in an ivory tower. What exactly are these 2 year technical qualifications anyway, and more to the point, how are they proposed to help people displaced by technology?
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Post by El-dudeareno on Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:50 pm

"We’re hardwired to sleep, not to work"  Sleep Shows you how out of touch some of these people are?

"By contrast, the need for sleep really is hardwired, yet the world of work does not cater for the body’s natural rhythms of sleeping and waking, and most of us depend on a psychoactive drug (caffeine) to get us through the day. Sometimes this is supplied by our employer. There would be less sickness absence if people were able to sleep more (the afternoon siesta in some cultures is related to the body’s natural rhythms). However, such is the Tories’ lack of care about real human needs that it now appears that they are planning to scrap the working time directive (Report, 18 December). Progressive thinkers should view increasing automation as an opportunity to rethink work, including an expansion of leisure time for all and a universal income to support those displaced by robots in finding new work. Basketball


Dr David Hardman
Trustee, London Hazards Centre"


https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/dec/29/were-hardwired-to-sleep-not-to-work


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The Robots Are Coming, and Sweden Is Fine

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Post by El-dudeareno on Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:44 pm

"Eighty percent of Swedes express positive views about robots and artificial intelligence, according to a survey this year by the European Commission. By contrast, a survey by the Pew Research Center found that 72 percent of Americans were “worried” about a future in which robots and computers substitute for humans.

In the United States, where most people depend on employers for health insurance, losing a job can trigger a descent to catastrophic depths. It makes workers reluctant to leave jobs to forge potentially more lucrative careers. It makes unions inclined to protect jobs above all else.Yet in Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia, governments provide health care along with free education. They pay generous unemployment benefits, while employers finance extensive job training programs. Unions generally embrace automation as a competitive advantage that makes jobs more secure.

Making the United States more like Scandinavia would entail costs that collide with the tax-cutting fervor that has dominated American politics in recent decades.

Sweden, Denmark and Finland all spend more than 27 percent of their annual economic output on government services to help jobless people and other vulnerable groups, according to data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The United States devotes less than 20 percent of its economy to such programs."


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/27/business/the-robots-are-coming-and-sweden-is-fine.html

I would be lead to believe by the article that the Swede's are 'Ok' with this change is  because they have a 'welfare safety'(UBI) net to protect the most effected by this robotic-revolution Question  


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Robot warning over living wage rise

Post by echidna on Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:43 pm

Robot warning over living wage rise
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42559226

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