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Changed to the Univ Credit scheme
I spoke to a fella at my Local JCP yesterday ,and he told me that he is being 'forced' to go on the new Universal Credit scheme from his Work _roach, as he is on the JSA. Even thou there has been no change in his circumstances.
In addition to this yesterday I was asked by my work roach if I would like to 'volunteer' to be transferred onto the Universal Credit scheme! While my JCP is being transferred to the Univ-Credit, I do read the news and see what a shambles it is . I was given a speech about how wonderful the U-C is. However, they forgot to mention the Monthly payments, between 7-12 days appointments with the work roach, stricture rules for claimants, no holidays, and a 6-10 week waiting time for the first payment. But they did say there is a loan/benefit advance (see link), mind you they didnt know the repayment scale. However, in the comments on the link by Terminator, would give you an idea.
To my point does anyone know the rule regarding being transferred to the Univ Credit from JSA?
https://respectfulbenefits.forumotion.com/t709-tory-for-our-mistake-you-pay-for-it-universal-credit
http://www.katebelgrave.com/2017/10/universal-credit-advance-payments-fix-nothing-theyre-just-loans-and-another-debt-for-people-who-have-no-money/
"Terminator on October 2, 2017 at 12:23 said:
They will either take the Lump sum off the first payment or £11.10 each week for a repayment plan, that’s roughly just under £48 if they use a daily amount of £1.58 (£11.06 or £11.13 if they claim it back at £1.59 daily rate)
Those on UC will get 12 payments covering 28,30 or 31 days. Even landlords say per calander month and not a daily rate when they set the rents, even councils who charge 48 weeks with 4 free weeks account for the 4 free weeks by charging for those 28 days by making tenents pay that bit more each week or month to cover the free weeks. Say rent is £100 a wek with 4 free weeks throughout the year, then £8.34 would be for the free week the rest would be the weekly rent."
In addition to this yesterday I was asked by my work roach if I would like to 'volunteer' to be transferred onto the Universal Credit scheme! While my JCP is being transferred to the Univ-Credit, I do read the news and see what a shambles it is . I was given a speech about how wonderful the U-C is. However, they forgot to mention the Monthly payments, between 7-12 days appointments with the work roach, stricture rules for claimants, no holidays, and a 6-10 week waiting time for the first payment. But they did say there is a loan/benefit advance (see link), mind you they didnt know the repayment scale. However, in the comments on the link by Terminator, would give you an idea.
To my point does anyone know the rule regarding being transferred to the Univ Credit from JSA?
https://respectfulbenefits.forumotion.com/t709-tory-for-our-mistake-you-pay-for-it-universal-credit
http://www.katebelgrave.com/2017/10/universal-credit-advance-payments-fix-nothing-theyre-just-loans-and-another-debt-for-people-who-have-no-money/
"Terminator on October 2, 2017 at 12:23 said:
They will either take the Lump sum off the first payment or £11.10 each week for a repayment plan, that’s roughly just under £48 if they use a daily amount of £1.58 (£11.06 or £11.13 if they claim it back at £1.59 daily rate)
Those on UC will get 12 payments covering 28,30 or 31 days. Even landlords say per calander month and not a daily rate when they set the rents, even councils who charge 48 weeks with 4 free weeks account for the 4 free weeks by charging for those 28 days by making tenents pay that bit more each week or month to cover the free weeks. Say rent is £100 a wek with 4 free weeks throughout the year, then £8.34 would be for the free week the rest would be the weekly rent."
Last edited by El-dudeareno on Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:08 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : extra)
Re: Changed to the Univ Credit scheme
If your roach is asking you if you would like to volunteer, then it does not sound as if it is compulsory for you yet.
Do you think the fella you spoke to is being coerced?
Do you think the fella you spoke to is being coerced?
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Re: Changed to the Univ Credit scheme
What might trigger a transfer to UC in a digital area?
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/9329/#43249
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
Please provide me with the guidance, ideally the step-by-step procedure, issued to and used by work coaches when transferring claimants, who are currently on Jobseeker’s Allowance, on to the Jobseeker’s Allowance element of Universal Credit.
Please provide me with copies of forms filled in by claimants and work coaches alike during this process.
Please also provide me with any screen-grabs of forms used by work coaches in this process, where no hard copies used, i.e. where data is inputted by the work coach electronically.
And please provide me with a copy of the letter (if any) given to claimants advising them they are being transferred. Thank you.
Yours faithfully,
Curtis Allan
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/jsa_to_uc_guidance#incoming-936250
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/9329/#43249
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
Please provide me with the guidance, ideally the step-by-step procedure, issued to and used by work coaches when transferring claimants, who are currently on Jobseeker’s Allowance, on to the Jobseeker’s Allowance element of Universal Credit.
Please provide me with copies of forms filled in by claimants and work coaches alike during this process.
Please also provide me with any screen-grabs of forms used by work coaches in this process, where no hard copies used, i.e. where data is inputted by the work coach electronically.
And please provide me with a copy of the letter (if any) given to claimants advising them they are being transferred. Thank you.
Yours faithfully,
Curtis Allan
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/jsa_to_uc_guidance#incoming-936250
Re: Changed to the Univ Credit scheme
Caker wrote:If your roach is asking you if you would like to volunteer, then it does not sound as if it is compulsory for you yet.
Do you think the fella you spoke to is being coerced?
He could be Caker, but you know what some Roaches are like they seem to make the rules up as they go along . Also you never know if the JCP is giving out bonus's to work-roaches to get people to sign up to the new UC scheme?
Re: Changed to the Univ Credit scheme
El-Dude wrote:..........you never know if the JCP is giving out bonus's to work-roaches to get people to sign up to the new UC scheme?
I think you are spot on.
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