Restart figures for 22/23
Restart figures for 22/23
(Published 8 June 2023)
So where to start on this Scheme...
530,000 Refured (Press ganged)
450,000 Starters
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80,000 Didn't Start ️
450,000 - Starters
84,000 (achieved a job outcome)
366,000 (didn't achieve a positive outcome)
So only
19% (approx) success rate , not exactly money well spent then...
# 'Tender Performance level' (TPC), contractual expectation 84k ( thousand). Yet figures arounded up to nearest 1,000.
84,000 participants achieved job outcomes Surprise surprise
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/restart-scheme-statistics-to-april-2023/restart-scheme-statistics-to-april-2023
2. Main Stories
The statistics show that by the end of April 2023 (numbers rounded to the nearest 1000):
530,000 individuals had been referred to the programme since its launch, with 450,000 of these having started on the programme
150,000 of these participants have achieved first earnings from employment since starting on the scheme. Note that many participants have received less than 12 months of support so far
84,000 participants have subsequently achieved a job outcome. This is against a tender performance level (TPL) contractual expectation of 84,000 job outcomes by this point in the programme, representing 100% of the TPL
the minimum performance level for the scheme (MPL) at this point is 62,000 job outcomes. The current number of job outcomes therefore represents 136% of the MPL
230,000 people have had the opportunity of 12 months of support on the programme by April 2023. Of these people, 42% have achieved first earnings from employment so far. 25% have achieved a job outcome so far, against an MPL expectation of 15% and a TPL expectation of 20%
of the 450,000 starts on the scheme, 57% were recorded as male, and 43% recorded as female. 10% are aged between 18 and 24 years old, with 63% aged between 25 and 49 years old and 27% aged 50 years or over."
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Whilst there was a 'table of Job Outcomes Recorded'. It only shows the Regions/CPA's (contact package areas). But no company's names, maybe to protect the under achievers .
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"of the 450,000 starts on the scheme, 57% were recorded as male, and 43% recorded as female. "
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Pains me to say it but 19% of participants getting a job is an improvement on many other programmes. Still rubbish though and if the jobs are just minimal hours hardly worthwhile.
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Pains me to say it but 19% of participants getting a job is an improvement on many other programmes. Still rubbish though and if the jobs are just minimal hours hardly worthwhile.
I have to agree with you #Ignatius, that 19% going into substantialble employment. Took the wind️ out my sails? The more pessimistic out there might suggest that the statistics have been 'masssged'. But reading some comments about the Retread Roach' , being hostile to say the least️.
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Ignatius wrote:By job outcomes, do they mean anything or sufficient earnings to trigger an outcome payment for a provider? I only ask as I bumped into an acquaintance today. Their 365 days of Restart are up next month and they are currently working ...for 8hrs poxy hours a week.
Pains me to say it but 19% of participants getting a job is an improvement on many other programmes. Still rubbish though and if the jobs are just minimal hours hardly worthwhile.
84,000 Job start you mean these 84,000 held a gun point over the phone or threaten with sanctions to obey the advisory people demands.
I'm sick of restart every advisor keeps on yelling you must seek full time employment even my roach said 16 hours you required to get off JSA told her fuckers is after a quick cash and grab and go had a advisor try to interrogate me why you avoiding full time work.
I only work a few hours a week take years for me to hit the magic big 3600£ threshold for restart to get the maximum payout also a big question can restart providers get paid from DWP if you found the job yourself or the job has to come from a restart job role itself this where im confused about.
Also I pickup on this in the last few months using the programme
I highly think the job has to be from restart itself for them to to get paid couple of the advisors i had in the past give away all the clues told her about a interview i sourced myself she would call up next day and say do a restart job role no interview or cv required sounded desperate as fuck when i said no.
This is the same with job searches you would say this job look interesting on indeed going to apply for this the advisor would come over with a restart job role and say do this instead also every role is full time.
These advisory people not smart or high IQ enough to hide away their clues.
They always say full time job reason being a claimant does 37 hours a week would only take someone 4 months max to earn the 3600£ and get paid by DWP each time i say part time advisor goes full time no part time full time fuck off leave me alone.
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Charles1985 wrote:Ignatius wrote:By job outcomes, do they mean anything or sufficient earnings to trigger an outcome payment for a provider? I only ask as I bumped into an acquaintance today. Their 365 days of Restart are up next month and they are currently working ...for 8hrs poxy hours a week.
Pains me to say it but 19% of participants getting a job is an improvement on many other programmes. Still rubbish though and if the jobs are just minimal hours hardly worthwhile.
also a big question can restart providers get paid from DWP if you found the job yourself or the job has to come from a restart job role itself this where im confused about.
Also I pickup on this in the last few months using the programme
I highly think the job has to be from restart itself for them to to get paid.
Not only will restart get paid if you find your own job they will get paid if you find a job up to 6 months after you have finished the restart scheme.
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People could be on the course for years (probably the most difficult to find work for, who need more help) but they will only count once so that figure of 366,000 (didn't achieve a positive outcome) could be x2 or x3 that.
There is also a 40 working days period where you may have been referred to Restart but have not had a first meeting. If you find a job within that 40 days period then they get paid and count it as a positive outcome even though they have never met you and done nothing to find you a job. That is a possible 80 000 people or more if you have been referred more than once. They only have 84 000 participants who have achieved a job outcome. So it's possible that they have only helped 4000 people into employment.
The whole male/female thing is just smoke and mirrors to confuse us with unnecessary bullshit.
According to the government’s own calculations, 5% of the long-term unemployed can find jobs for six months if left alone to do so. You can knock another 5% off that 19% then.
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The thing that worries me is . From what I have been reading about the scheme, it seems the Provider's/ Retread-Roaches. Have been 'Draconian' to put it mildly, and even pulling out all the stops and they can only achieve the under 20%. As you say the figures have most likely been 'adjusted'...
Not exactly value for money .
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They 'micro manage' something's, yet sweep over other information a side...
It's the same where I have made port. You have to keep your eyes open, as the 'high way' code doesn't apply to them? Jumping red lights , riding on the pavement with no warning of them approaching. Just glad that the have a fluorescent box on there back. Shame there not a sticker 'hows my riding, call this number'... On their e-bikes/push bike's .
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Full time, Part time, Gig (Economy)/ ZHC. As the 'gig/zhc' can be full, part and no time hours?️
But alas you could imagine they, wouldn't want to highlight this situation?
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/department-for-work-and-pensions-mps-covid-therese-coffey-people-b2305505.html
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/194323/restart-scheme-will-cost-more-per-person-and-help-fewer-of-them-than-planned/
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oneman wrote:Restart scheme will cost more per person and help fewer of them than planned
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/department-for-work-and-pensions-mps-covid-therese-coffey-people-b2305505.html
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/194323/restart-scheme-will-cost-more-per-person-and-help-fewer-of-them-than-planned/
"The PAC report said that, as a result of the changed terms, “Restart is now expected to cost £2,429 per participant, making it significantly more expensive than the Work Programme, which cost the department around £1,760 per participant”."
Public Accounts Committee (PLC).
Yet another sucess story from the DWP. And I thought the Work (& Health) program was a money pit..
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Maybe I'm thick but how exactly is it more expensive to deliver a less effective service?
Presumably the eventual successor to Restart will be even more expensive to deliver and even less effective. Nice work for some.
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As a result, the hospitality industry has a higher turnover of people and profit than the aerospace or pharmaceutical industries combined. I see a little theme developing there , not least because it has been created over the past 13 years.
Anyone see any sign of the millions of well-paid, highly skilled jobs ? I don't see Labor having any answers either. Still, I guess some will be happy with the status quo. And not the band for those who are old enough to remember them
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Ignatius wrote:Who'd have thunk Restart would be an expensive flop?
Maybe I'm thick but how exactly is it more expensive to deliver a less effective service?
Presumably the eventual successor to Restart will be even more expensive to deliver and even less effective. Nice work for some.
They sure as hell know how to waste a ton of money. More of these inappropriate/unsuitable compulsory circuses, and a few getting very rich out of it. These are the new recruitment sectors, but this time, for the first time in 50 years, there are no clients available to send to. Because those who try to supply totally inappropriate candidates due to those having legitimate health and disabilities will cause total damage to business. They have all missed this little nugget of an idea in their latest brain storm of: "let us remove all LCW/LCWRA as soon as possible. "And have a roach decide who is really sick or not. This is a great idea:evil: . Watch this space because this is the mentality they cant get enough of. When you can't solve one problem, why not go forth and cause many others.All makes sense.
All the warehouses are full. Or is there another secret sector of well-paid work I've overlooked ?
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