Don't sign on - claim closed in 5 days?

by cc120 Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:30 pm

Am I correct in understanding that if you don't sign on, or contact JCP/DWP within 5 days your claim is automatically closed?

by Ignatius Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:42 pm

My understanding is the same. Every appointment letter I've received from JCP has said if I don't attend and they don't hear from me within 5 days my claim will be closed.

by cc120 Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:40 pm

Ignatius wrote:My understanding is the same. Every appointment letter I've received from JCP has said if I don't attend and they don't hear from me within 5 days my claim will be closed.

Thank you Ignatius.
In this case are you legally obliged to inform any authorities that your claim is closed?

by Ignatius Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:04 pm

I don't think you have to inform them. However, if any overpayment arose because they closed your claim due to not hearing from you then that could have legal implications as they would want to recover the overpayment. You certainly don't have to tell them why you are closing your claim. Maybe you could work out if you just let your claim close through non-attendance if that would put you in a position whereby you weren't entitled to benefits for your 5 days missing in action at the jobcentre.

by The Catwoman Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:11 pm

I feel like a WC should at least phone if you miss an appointment and don't get in contact, something may have happened to you, but we all know they wouldn't bother

by cc120 Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:02 am

Thank you, Ignatius and The Catwoman.

by Ignatius Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:46 am

That's very true, Catwoman. If a WC didn't turn up for work they would make efforts to contact them, and if unsuccessful, contact the police on concerns for welfare grounds. If a claimant doesn't show up, ah well, we'll just leave them to decompose in their little hovel.

by Pintel Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:51 pm

On a similar theme. Notice it can take over 5x weeks

️, to get a UC claim processed. And yet only 5x days to get you off the books

.

Also does anyone know, is it 5x working days, or just 5x consecutive days. To scuttle the claim?

by The Catwoman Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:19 pm

It's five consecutive days, including weekends and the day you miss

by jobberpw Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:17 am

If you dont attend when asked, i think thats a 'no, no.' = claim suspended/closed.

But if you can show legitimate reasons by that, using their reasonable mentality is: you've been in a car crash, gone through the window screen at 100mph but youve done ''the right thing'' while there in your hospital bed. Regularly applying for hospital cleaning jobs. Inside trading...dont cha Evil or Very Mad

know

https://cpag.org.uk/welfare-rights/resources/article/%E2%80%9os8cling%E2%80%99-universal-credit-claims

by jobberpw Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:19 am

Pintel wrote:On a similar theme. Notice it can take over 5x weeks️, to get a UC claim processed. And yet only 5x days to get you off the books .

Also does anyone know, is it 5x working days, or just 5x consecutive days. To scuttle the claim?

Bless them all Evil or Very Mad

. Another bit of creative accounting.

They really love to make things so crystal clear when its to a claimants advantage. I'd say 5 working days, but who knows what calendar these muppetts be using Pintel.

Twisted Evil

by jobberpw Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:26 am

The Catwoman wrote:I feel like a WC should at least phone if you miss an appointment and don't get in contact, something may have happened to you, but we all know they wouldn't bother

Or, one of their favoraites with all their 'specific tailored help' - we phoned you ...but never did Evil or Very Mad

. Naturally they tell you that after the event. Game is to create maximum stress to claimant all in line with 'tailored help to address mental health issues.' Mad

Tried that game on me before, and more than once.

My Roach was too thick! to realise, that mobiles actually recieve calls when they've been made, as do ISP's and Phone providers Rolling Eyes

.

by Coconutxone Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:53 am

jobberpw wrote:
The Catwoman wrote:I feel like a WC should at least phone if you miss an appointment and don't get in contact, something may have happened to you, but we all know they wouldn't bother

Or, one of their favoraites with all their 'specific tailored help' - we phoned you ...but never did . Naturally they tell you that after the event. Game is to ctreate maximum stress to claimant all in line with 'tailored help to address mental health issues.'

Tried that game on me before, and more than once.

My Roach was too thick! to relaise, that mobiles actually recieve calls when they've been made as do ISP's and Phone providers.

Roach only phone once if you miss the call also the trick these bastards play is when you call back the number is will say we tried to contact you over phone sorry you missed your call we will try again soon they never do...... The call terminates you never get to speak to someone.

Only way is to visit your job centre and moan before they close off your claim they tried this shit with me in covid times.

by jobberpw Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:05 pm

Yes, they like to 'imply' they called more than once. Usually get told that once you visit roach shop with some part time roach trying to pass themselves off as a 'specialist employment adviser' when in reality, they arent capable of advising or getting a hammster into any decent work or training.No disrespect to any hammsters out there.

At least now we can send them a messege through a journal, for those that have one. I believe everyone will soon. So far more tracilbility if/when they lie. This is why they prefer the phone as comminication method when it suits although I and others record them either way. Such is the trust we hold Evil or Very Mad

.

by Pintel Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:24 pm

#Jobberpw: "
But if you can show legitimate reasons by that, using their reasonable mentality is: you've been in a car crash, gone through the window screen at 100mph but youve done ''the right thing'' while there in your hospital bed. Regularly applying for hospital cleaning jobs. Inside trading...dont cha Evil or Very Mad know"...

You say 'legitimate reasons' I was on the casting couch

️, at my local JCP

. And over heard a conversation between a claimant & Roach clown

. It transpires the Claimant had a 'Major Heart

attack'. To which they produce documentation from the hospital, to prove time/date of the medical situation. And the Roach clown

was having none of it

!!!

I was half expecting the Roach clown

to say 'we have a defibulator in the building, so could of had the Heart

attack here'..... confused

by The Catwoman Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:27 pm

When I had a phone appointment last year WC never phoned at all after waiting 10 minutes I went straight to JC and up to her desk....
Usual rubbish I called multiple times, have you blocked us

, why would you be blocked when I'm expecting your call.
I am lucky as my JC is 15 minutes walking distance 🤮

by Pintel Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:33 pm

Not being the sharpest tool

in the box here. Can you still tell (produce evidence) if a person has called your phone number, even if it has been 'blockef'

?

by Coconutxone Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:12 pm

Pintel wrote:Not being the sharpest tool in the box here. Can you still tell (produce evidence) if a person has called your phone number, even if it has been 'blockef'?

They lie to your face and never note it down in their systems when they call you. I called the DWP once, saying I missed an 0800 number. I knew it was the job centre calling me up. I say, please check your system for any notes left behind. The bastard said, No, yeah, right. The very next day, I went to the job centre. The 0800 call was made from their side, trying to sign me over the phone due to staff strikes. Thank goodness I went the next day, or else my claim would be closed off. They will try this to get people off JSA.

I start to wonder restart and roaches are causing claimants harm and distress. My course is all confirmed, dated, and signed. The advisor will proceed and book you into a restart course that clashes with yours by sabotage your own sourced one for funding we all know they did this for funding no other valid reason to this.

Roach will ask for your wage slips two months down the line, and they will say you haven't provided me with any information to me the sick, twisted people they hire. Body cameras must be worn at all times with these lot every appointment you have save the file onto your computer use it against them if they sanction you.

by jobberpw Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:08 am

yes, usually if there is no 0800, 0345, calls in a 24 hour period I'd take it that none of thse planks called me.Despite them trying to argue different. Just like Coconutxone says; their games best describes their efforts from my experience.They want to save money.Close the lot of these places down or operate for school leavers only.Anyone seriously looking for a job, will not be visiting that place imo.

by jobberpw Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:03 pm

Pintel wrote:Not being the sharpest tool in the box here. Can you still tell (produce evidence) if a person has called your phone number, even if it has been 'blockef'?

Yes you can. Will show up in the blocker seciton on phone. Use screen recorder to take a pic and show it to moron roach. Laughing

There are some excellent 2 way recorders out there now, £10 a year subscription but well worth it when we're all up against these games. I have a nice little library just crying out to played back to my MP. To show him just how specific they are with their tailored help.Failing that, i feel some newspapers will be interested in my stories form "Day out at Roach Vile 2011-2023 Twisted Evil

".

by Pintel Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:54 pm

"#Jobberpw: There are some excellent 2 way recorders out there now, £10 a year subscription but well worth it when we're all up against these games."

These 2x way recorders, can you get them on a PAYG phone? And what do you get for you money?
As I would of thought, the evidence of there number ( not sure if withheld numbers, are displayed?). Would be enough for most people?

by jobberpw Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:33 pm

think they only work on smart phone apps. Cube ACR recorder is excellent.Used it for years and built up a nice library. 2 way digital calls excellent quality. Can switch on to record all incoming calls and outward bound.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catalinagroup.callrecorder&hl=en&gl=US&pli=1

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