Group session instead of one to one work search review

Ignatius wrote:N might not be so laidback.

I shall file away your reference to a FOI saying WSR not to be used for jobsearch in case it's needed in the future...

Ignatius wrote:On the subject of stupid JCP ideas, did anyone here ever do Speed Signing?

Ignatius wrote:When I got sent to Work Club I recall getting a letter about it informing me I must bring my glasses (if worn) and passwords which made me think it would be rather formal. In practice, most of the time it was a bit like getting a supply teacher at school.

Ignatius wrote:When you got called to the front to show WC your jobsearch it was just like being back at school. Every now and again we'd get a strict WC but most of the time it was tolerable.


 
Also #Ig, was there 'security' (covert or uniformed) in the room? Usually the chap to whom doesn't seem to be doing anything, yet doesn't seem to want to go home

Just incase a paper airplane is launched...

Absolut wrote:

He said "there are no appointments downstairs any more". I said "that's a breach of the Equality Act"

Didn't you enquire to what the downstairs of the JCP offices are going to be used as #Absolut.  Are they going to convert into Luxury flats or install a Coffee shop there? 
By the way things are going in this country, you could see the DWP, converting an old Ice Cream van. And having appointments at the back window, while we stand in the cold....

Ignatius wrote:Your inability to do stairs reminds of a fellow Work Club detainee with a broken foot. He was made to struggle up the stairs. 🤬

Mr Absolut may like to bear in mind Work Club offers opportunities to distract the WC and get their beady eyes away from your computer screen. We would ask questions about all manner of JCP stuff so they had less time for snooping.

When you got called to the front to show WC your jobsearch it was just like being back at school. Every now and again we'd get a strict WC but most of the time it was tolerable.

Pintel wrote:Didn't you enquire to what the downstairs of the JCP offices are going to be used as #Absolut.  Are they going to convert into Luxury flats or install a Coffee shop there?

Absolut wrote:Has anyone ever had their WSR replaced with a half hour "job search" session instead, in a room with other claimants all doing the same thing, which is to happen every fortnight "from now on" (i.e indefinitely)?

Hi Absolut, a few years ago I did something similar but never to actually replace my usual WSR. When i was on the WP that's all it seemed to consist of...WSR. Just another sheep herding exercise to make it look they are actually delivering some form of "help"

Really hope this doesn't last too long for you Absolut, and hope you will question as to what this special WSR is, how its effectively and more importantly positively enabling you to surpass every other Google search when looking for work on planet earth. No doubt, their brief is to reply if asked "helping claimant's engage with each other, compare notes etc "


Once in the dungeon, don't forget to ask where the Coffee/tea and bics are .

Ignatius wrote:On the subject of stupid JCP ideas, did anyone here ever do Speed Signing?

Do you mean sign and go out the door ASAP ? Sounds my kind of thing Ignatius.

Pintel wrote:What happened to this 'alleged' one to one support, from the Roach🤨...  #Absolut, this excuse of JSA claimant's on different floors, does not hold water to me. When the JCP offices where paper based. But today with all computerised/ hot desking. That is 'discrimitation'????  

The test is whether that particular course of action will help a particular claimant get employment or improve their prospects of employment in the specific circumstances and that the claimant has no good reason for failing to comply with the request.

there has to be a clearly identified tangible benefit to the individual claimant in terms of improving their employment prospects with whatever is directed (also see DMG 34904).

34907 A JSD must be
1. linked to an action to improve the claimant's chances of finding work (for example, a JSD can ask a claimant to produce a current CV but it cannot dictate how the claimant presents the evidence)
2. personalised and appropriate for that individual claimant (see DMG 349903 and 34904)
3. related to labour market activities
4. a one-off specific activity, which the claimant can reasonably be expected to perform
5. time bound and reviewed by the Personal Adviser or Assistant Adviser within 2 to 4 weeks
6. give full information about the activity (for example, details of: the full name and address (including post code) of the employer, agency or course referred to)
7. inform the claimant exactly what the claimant must do (for example, send a CV to a specific employer, or a range of employers in a particular trade)
8. give the date by which it must be done and
9. explain what will happen if they do not comply (i.e. sanction)

34923 Whether the claimant can reasonably access a DWP IAD should they either not have reasonable access to the internet or should they wish to exercise their right not to accept cookies should be taken into account.

jobberpw wrote:

Ignatius wrote:On the subject of stupid JCP ideas, did anyone here ever do Speed Signing?

Do you mean sign and go out the door ASAP ? Sounds my kind of thing Ignatius.

Pintel wrote:jobberpw   Do you mean sign and go out the door ASAP ? Sounds my kind of thing Ignatius.   



I am sorry to say the day's of 'Show & Go' at the JCP, where back in the 1980's #Jobber...

That just shows how well I've done pintel. Decades on, and I'm still back there in more ways than one

Someone told me due to forthcoming cut backs, anyone needing the loo at roach central must bring their own potty .