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Post by sheeple Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:17 am

Most of the things they tell you to do are not a legal requirement. Don’t comply with pointless or dangerous rules and regulations. Question everything.

https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/things-you-can-do
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Post by Caker Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 pm

Very interesting, especially this


Now, does anyone have any link to any document which showed it was re-classified as high risk after 19.03.2020?
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Post by sheeple Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:37 pm

There is no such document, to my knowledge, updating Covid-19's status to High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID).  If there had been, it would have been on the gov guidance and Vernon Coleman would certainly have mentioned it on his site:

https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/here-proof-covid-19-was-downgraded-march-2020

Here is the PROOF that covid-19 was downgraded in March 2020:
10th February 2021


"As I reported on my website back in March, on March 19th, the public health bodies in the UK and the Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens decided that the new disease should no longer be classified as a 'high consequence infectious disease' (click on the link below to see the proof). The coronavirus was downgraded to flu level.

A couple of days after this decision, the UK Government introduced lockdowns and introduced the most oppressive Bill in British Parliamentary history. The Emergency Bill, which was 358 pages long, turned Britain into a totalitarian state and gave the Government and the police unprecedented powers. Public meetings and elections were banned and there were new powers relating to 'restrictions on use and disclosure of information'.

There are still people who do not know that the coronavirus was downgraded to `flu’ threat back in March. Please send the link to MPs and newspapers. It proves that everything that has happened since March has been a lie."

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Status of COVID-19

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.

Definition of HCID

In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:

   - acute infectious disease
  -  typically has a high case-fatality rate
  -  may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
   - often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
   - ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
   - requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely


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Post by Caker Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:03 am

@Sheeple I saw your document and I am confident it is correct. I have no question of that.

Now, this raises the question of why Cov19 has been used as an excuse to introduce a new act of parliament and restrict personal freedom. Further, why has it been used as an excuse to close businesses?

I would understand anyone who was suspicious of something sinister afoot.

If you were the government and you wanted to know what people were talking about, it would be super convenient to cause more people to communicate online (because they are prohibited from meeting in person). Ideally you might want to close down the places where people communicate in person (hospitality, personal services).

Just playing devil's advocate in case anyone thinks I am being irrational. Looking forward to taking up the cudgels of this debate.
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Post by Jara Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:21 pm

Caker wrote:Now, this raises the question of why Cov19 has been used as an excuse to introduce a new act of parliament and restrict personal freedom. Further, why has it been used as an excuse to close businesses?

This is just my opinion and impression of the whole situation, not something I can necessarily prove with sources or anything. Our government, as seen with Brexit and Universal Credit, have been very incompetent. They been using leaks as a way to poll different ideas and they constantly trying to funnel tax money into their mates pockets. This whole covid-19, restrictions and lockdown all been a shambles from the UK government.

Most other countries in the world have locked down and restricted personal freedom. UK was quite late in doing that and tried to open up way too soon. Now Boris & co are just using the pandemic as an opportunity to introduce new laws, just like with how they done with Brexit. It wasn't planned, it just happened and that's why it turned out so badly. Corruption runs deep in the government. Boris probably feel very lucky that the pandemic hit and the NHS vaccine efforts are now working. All to bury the sad state of Brexit, poverty and other pressing issues.

So I don't see it as a conspiracy that businesses closed, Tory resisted it for longer than they should. I believe it was the right thing to do. Closing down the economy, the UC uplift and the furlough scheme are all ideas that conservatives would normally despise. In fact, just a few years those ideas would probably be labelled as communism or socialism. Still, we need to fight the corrupt Tory government even though they done a few good things.

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