Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

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Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by El-dudeareno on Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:46 am

I was reading this webpage, and saw in the comment section "Are suspensions the new sanctions ?" by Meninx #13 Evil or Very Mad

"Are suspensions the new sanctions ?
Be aware that people are now being suspended from benefit instead of sanctioned This works well for DWP because it keeps down sanction numbers while giving the illusion that people are coming off benefit The job centre will claim that they sent letters but these will not be received and you will have no notice of the suspension .You can not appeal against suspension as you can a sanction so you are in the hands of the decision makers".



So has anyone heard of these 'Suspensions' and what is the criteria etc that they can be issued with these punishments, and surely you must have a right of appeal under the Human Rights Act? confused

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/other-benefits/jobseeker-s-allowance/jsa-sanctions
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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by Caker on Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:31 pm

I am getting confused now confused

I thought that suspension of benefits was just another term for sanctions. I was not aware that they are 2 different things. This needs some more research to clear up the confusion. Any takers Question
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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by Tarquin Flotsam on Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:48 pm

My JSA was "suspended" back in February this year. It would mean getting no money until the decision maker had looked at why I'd been suspended. The only notice I was given of my suspension was that day, a letter this particulary malicious work roach handed to me:

It was suspended because the roach decided I hadn't been actively seeking work. Basically, you don't get anything until the decision maker has decided whether you should be sanctioned or not. Thankfully, with the help of Mary, the suspension was lifted and I received my money a week later than usual, but the domino effect on this (plus this work roach's incompetence) meant there was confusion for several weeks on whether I'd closed my claim or not. I received letters from the housing benefit/council tax office stating I'd stopped claiming for this period so had to pay full rent/council tax. Eventually it was all sorted out but not without a great deal of stress!
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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by Caker on Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:33 pm

Oh!, I see now. TF
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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by Admin on Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:52 pm

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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by Admin on Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:01 am

found another reference to suspension of benefits

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24839865
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Re: Are suspensions the new sanctions ?

Post by El-dudeareno on Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:33 am

Thanks for the updates, one worrying point is as Tarquin Flotsam said "It would mean getting no money until the decision maker had looked at why I'd been suspended". Surely if you get a 'sanction' you are given clear details of how long and the reasons?  On these 'suspensions', the DWP🤡  can drag it out as long as they want? Evil or Very Mad


One point thou on the BBC site it say about missing appointment from illness is sanctionable offence!  scratch


"We have spoken to people who have had delays and sanctions for mundane reasons, such as not having the right ink to fill an application or missing appointments due to sickness which is unacceptable."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24839865


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