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Post by Caker on Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:58 pm

I just realised that we have nothing on the forum about this and yet it remains a current scheme and people are still referred to it, so we really need something, if anyone has any information.

To start, I found this:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sector-based-work-academies-employer-guide/sector-based-work-academies-employer-guide



SBWA is not suitable for everyone, so I believe that we need more information about the consequences of whether or not to choose to participate in this, particularly in regard to people who are not given all the facts prior to referral to this scheme.

Any takers?


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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Admin on Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:58 pm

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/399271/response/967652/attach/html/3/FOI%201547.pdf.html

Excluding your new Youth Obligation what work experience schemes are
entirely voluntary?

DWP Response:

DWP has several schemes which are voluntary. These schemes are available
for people who are interested in gaining the necessary skills to help move into
employment. The work experience schemes that are voluntary are:

 Work Experience Opportunity

 The work placement element of sector-based work academies (sbwa)

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/sector_based_work_academies_and

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

Key: SFA = Skills Funding Agency

1. Informed Consent forms (SFA funded sbwa)

1.1 Is it Mandatory for a young person to be placed on an SFA funded sbwa Pre-employment training (PET) if they do not sign a Data Sharing Informed Consent form?

1.2 Is it Mandatory for a young person to be placed on SFA funded sbwa Work Experience Placement (WEP) if they do not sign a Data Sharing Informed Consent form?

1.3 Is it Mandatory for a young person on SFA funded sbwa to attend a Guaranteed Job Interview (GJI)if they do not sign a Data Sharing Informed Consent form?

1.4 Please confirm that if a young person referred to any of these SFA funded sbwa providers, refused to complete or sign a Data Sharing informed consent form they cannot be placed on any sbwa:

(a) Pre-employment training (PET)

(b) Work Experience Placement (WEP)

or be required to attend any

(c) Guaranteed Job Interview(GJI)
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Post by Caker on Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:11 pm

So, for the avoidance of all doubt, SBWA, is voluntary  cheers   Yay!
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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by helping_hand on Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:22 pm

The scheme is currently voluntary until the individual agrees to attend (JSA claimants).

Once agreed, the only elements that are mandatory include: The training and the interview.


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Post by Caker on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:01 pm

Thanks HH.
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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Catwoman on Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:37 am

Has anyone been sent on one.
My adviser put on my cc that she wants me to attend one. Does that mean I will ?ave ro do it as its on my cc.

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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Non Deficere on Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:49 am

Catwoman wrote:Has anyone been sent on one.
My adviser put on my cc that she wants me to attend one. Does that mean  I will ?ave ro do it as its on my cc.

Hello and welcome Catwoman!

To clarify what does it actually say in your cc? Agreeing to get some information about the scheme is not same as agreeing to start.  

The scheme is mandatory once you agree to start.  However, you do not have to do the work experience element.   Further, You must be provided with all the information about the scheme before you make a decision.  What did the adviser tell you?

Comment from Jara here:

http://respectfulbenefits.forumotion.com/t1146-going-back-to-jsa-uc-after-losing-employment#3938
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Post by Catwoman on Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:22 am

Thanks for the welcome.
First of all I had a ten minute appointment where the advisor signed me on the refereed me to a job screening. Then she wanted to update cc. She asked me if all the details are the same and I said yes so she printed it out for me to sign. Thats when she said ive added under other actions ' I will participate on sector based work academies in order to improve my employment propects'. I dont know why I signed it but I did.
Now as I said she said she would print out the same cc as berfore and I forgot myself and believed her, when I got home and actually read the cc.she added to my cc that I will log in to ujm to find and apply for jobs I can do. Now when she did my cc last year i told her I did not want ujm on my cc as she can't guarantee I can log in to it everyday. After an argument she didn't put it on it, but now she sneakily added it without discussing it with me.
Do you think I should wait to my next cc review to bring up removing ujm on cc with her. She must think I dont know shes added on to my cc. Just to cover myself ive been logging on to ujm and writing in the notes logged on and ive screenshot it if she wants proof.
After that she gave me another appointment to see someone about retail jobs but because she doesn't know if the woman will be in she said come and see me on wesnday and I 'll see if shes in, so she didn't even book the appointment on her computer. All this happened within 10 minutes so it was pretty overwhelming usually im more prepared when I see wc.

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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Non Deficere on Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:12 am

Catwoman wrote:Thanks for the welcome.
First of all I had a ten minute appointment where the advisor signed me on  the refereed me to a job screening.  Then  she wanted to update cc. She asked me if all the details are the same and I said yes so she printed it out for me to sign. Thats when she said  ive added under other actions ' I will participate on sector based work academies in order to improve my employment propects'. I dont know why I signed it but I did.

You cannot agree to something you know anything about. You can challenge this if you wish?


Now as I said she said she would print out the same cc as berfore and I forgot myself and believed her, when I got home and actually read the cc.she added to my cc  that I will log in to ujm to find and apply for jobs I can do. Now when she did my cc last year i told her I did not want ujm on my cc as she can't guarantee I can log in to it everyday. After an argument she didn't put it on it, but now she sneakily added it without discussing it with me.

Do you think I should wait to my next cc review to bring up removing  ujm on cc with her. She  must think I dont know shes added on to my cc.

Yes you can challenge this too.

Just to cover myself ive been logging on to ujm and writing in the notes logged on and ive screenshot it if she wants proof.
After that she gave me another appointment  to see someone about retail jobs but because she doesn't know if the woman will be in she said come and see me on wesnday and I 'll see if shes in, so she didn't even book the appointment on her computer.  All this happened within 10 minutes so it was pretty overwhelming usually im more prepared  when I see wc.
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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Admin on Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:43 pm

welcome to the site

what was actually done was add something that wasnt agreed upon only what your adviser decided to put onto your cc most are now doing it without peoples knowledge

to me its fraud but there get out clause is we gave you to read it before you signed it

therefore you consented to say everything is correct on the document at that time

many on this forum has come across this situation and if you appeal it another adviser does the same and agrees with the first adviser
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Re: Sector Based Work Academy

Post by Caker on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Always read the cc through and query anything which has not been discussed with you or which you specifically do not agree to.
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