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Post by Caker on Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:28 pm

......just that really. I did not know if this was an error Embarassed



ps. Why is 'computers and the Internet' now a sub category?


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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:41 pm

oops

they wont be 2 of the same just left them until ive changed some of the site around

im trying to make it better but for now just doing 2 parts of the forums into a sub category and see what people think of it

if not liked will consider a change back

decided to do a little more to the forum and added categorys to the forum to make it look better

all new categorys

MAIN FORUM
MEDIA NEWS
JOBSEEKER HELP
Daily impact
SITE INFO

i can place esa into its own category

but id like to know if its much better this way for now
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:51 am

I think JOBSEEKER HELP could be renamed CLAIMANT HELP. That way, ESA and PIP could stay in that section because it covers everyone regardless.

I agree that we could combine topics and have fewer.

I think 'benefit advice links' needs to go in 'jobseekers help'

I think 'computers and Internet' need to go in daily impact.

I think 'media news' needs to go into the main forum.

I think 'site info' needs to go in the main forum


That reduces the sections from 5 down to 3. Much tidier, I think

just added topic from pm
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Post by helping_hand on Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:07 am

My two penn'orth...

Some of my editing has gone skewiff!

MAIN FORUM

·         LOUNGE
Chat, thinking out aloud and other stuff

·         MEDIA & NEWS
News and newspaper articles
 
·         COMPUTERS & INTERNET
Anything to do with computers and the internet


SELF HELP FOR UNEMPLOYED & DISABLED PEOPLE
 
·         JOBSEEKER/CLAIMANT HELP
Jobseeker/claimant help and all its information belongs to their respective owners. We appreciate it if you link to our site from other sites with a brief description added to your post.
 
·         ESA AND PIP
ESA/PIP Advice links, medical evidence for appeals, ESA law.

·         UNIVERSAL CREDIT
Universal credit survival tips & advice.
 
·         BENEFITS ADVICE LINKS
Useful benefit information can be found here. Respect and Support for People Claiming Welfare Benefits

·         LAW
UK/EU Law, debt collectors, DWP contracts, Human rights

FIRST TIER TRIBUNALS
Information for reconsideration's and appeals preparing for a tribunal and upper tier tribunal
Moderator: mods


PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES
 
·         PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES FOR 25 YEAR PLUS
·         PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE (18-24)


DAILY IMPACT

·         HOUSING, HEATING AND COOKING
Housing universal credit, homeless, basically anything housing related, free heating and cooking information, how to eat as cheaply as possible & recipes
 
·         BENEFIT SANCTIONS, DWP DECISIONS & COMPLAINTS
Assistance with challenging sanctions, decisions, poor treatment by DWP officials and/or its contractors.


SITE INFORMATION & UPDATES
 
·         SITE INFO
Anything to do with the running of the site and what’s happening with it, site updates, external links that we link too[/color]

Edit:
Or add SITE INFO to the MAIN FORUM
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:28 pm

yes, that looks like a good arrangement.

I think the following could go into SITE HELP

PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES FOR 25 YEAR PLUS
PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE (18-24)


BENEFIT SANCTIONS, DWP DECISIONS & COMPLAINTS
Assistance with challenging sanctions, decisions, poor treatment by DWP officials and/or its contractors.



Since we help people with issues relating to schemes. In addition, challenging sanctions is not really a separate topic, so 'site help' is a good place for it.
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:30 pm

I still think computers and the internet could go into 'daily impact' because people are on computers/internet daily and affected by anything to do with that, on a daily basis.
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by helping_hand on Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:46 pm

 Caker!

I have revised to 3 sections?

I think the self help and  information sections should be kept as clean as possible.

MAIN FORUM

*LOUNGE
Chat, thinking out aloud and other stuff

*MEDIA & NEWS
News and newspaper articles
 
*SITE INFO
Anything to do with the running of the site and what’s happening with it, site updates, external links that we link too.
 
??[Add a statement within Site Info about linking to information posted belonging to their respective owners etc. ]
 
*ASSISTED SUPPORT WITH GENERAL DWP QUERIES, BENEFIT SANCTIONS, MANDATORY ACTIVITIES, DWP DECISIONS, COMPLAINTS & POOR TREATMENT
If you need help or wish to share information post here.


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SELF HELP & INFORMATION FOR UNEMPLOYED & DISABLED PEOPLE
 
*JOBSEEKER/CLAIMANT HELP
Mandatory Reconsiderations, Tribunal Appeals and Complaint Letters
 
*ESA AND PIP
ESA/PIP Advice links, medical evidence for appeals, ESA law. 

*UNIVERSAL CREDIT
Universal credit survival tips & advice.
 
*BENEFITS ADVICE LINKS
Useful benefit information can be found here.

*LAW
UK/EU Law, debt collectors, DWP contracts, Human rights
 
*PROGRAMMES, SCHEMES & COURSES
Latest News & Information
 
Programmes, schemes & Courses for 25year +
Programmes, schemes & Courses for Young people
Programmes, schemes & Courses for people with health conditions


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DAILY IMPACT

*HOUSING, HEATING AND COOKING
Housing universal credit, homeless, basically anything housing related, free heating and cooking information, how to eat as cheaply as possible & recipes
 
*COMPUTERS & INTERNET
Anything to do with computers and the internet
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:51 pm


*SITE INFO

can remain seperate as really its none important as it only advises members some important stuff

the reason why i moved media to the top as its a more important info being posted on the site so best way was to stick it where its seen quickly

oh and it was me who started the convo off as i like a tidy forum not full of pages however i can do setup like the old um forum as i was playing with these settings last night
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:02 pm

All looking great Very Happy


I meant to say that your suggestions for revisions look great HH. Much more streamlined and organised.



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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by helping_hand on Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:15 pm

Admin wrote:
*SITE INFO

can remain seperate as really its none important as it only advises members some important stuff

the reason why i moved media to the top as its a more important info being posted on the site so best way was to stick it where its seen quickly

oh and it was me who started the convo off as i like a tidy forum not full of pages however i can do setup like the old um forum as i was playing with these settings last night

Hi Admin,

A separate section for Site Info is fine.

I agree a tidy up is required.

It is a new site, so it is essential we evaluate its effectiveness!

I think this site and UM are separate entities.
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:30 pm

jobseeker help id like to keep as is more than change it to claiment help also due to what people type out when needing help

law and first tier tribunals as they are to do with law and legal stuff id prefer to keep them together hence the reason why they are in daily impact

otherwise daily impact will look thin

decided to separate the cooking and heating posts
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:06 am

I think we are nearly there Smile

If I could just suggest a couple more tweaks:

assisted support with general DWP queries - needs to be ASSISTED SUPPORT WITH GENERAL DWP QUERIES because it is a main heading like the others (not a sub).

job seekers allowance 18-24 year olds - needs to be JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE 14-24 YEAR OLDS for the same reason as above.

Just one more thing (sorry). The text, which follows the 18-24 section, looks a little bit ageist. We are here to help every person regardless of age. We encourage respectful freedom of expression. The text looks as if it is warning youngers to 'respect us because we are older than them' . I would find that a bit patronising if I was a young person coming to this site for help. They might even be put off   if they think we have pre-judged all young people as needing to be 'warned'.

I suggest something a bit friendlier:
"This section is for people aged 18-24 because the JSA regulations are different for this age group."

If there is disrespect, we can deal with it fairly, regardless of age, so I don't think we need to mention it on the front page.
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:28 am

suggest all you want as its for every member on these forums

as i said other day i like the feedback if things need a change its better to suggest it

I tend to prefer simple forums easy to navigate however if you dont agree how things are please state so
some things are better if edits or things are added

however things can be added as the site progresses

as goes for site so far it looks way better now however i did leave certain things separate to see if it looks better or worse
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:11 pm

Caker wrote:I think we are nearly there Smile

job seekers allowance 18-24 year olds - needs to be JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE 14-24 YEAR OLDS for the same reason as above.

Just one more thing (sorry). The text, which follows the 18-24 section, looks a little bit ageist. We are here to help every person regardless of age. We encourage respectful freedom of expression. The text looks as if it is warning youngers to 'respect us because we are older than them' . I would find that a bit patronising if I was a young person coming to this site for help. They might even be put off   if they think we have pre-judged all young people as needing to be 'warned'.

I suggest something a bit friendlier:
"This section is for people aged 18-24 because the JSA regulations are different for this age group."

by the way its 16 - 24 year olds not 14 too 24 chuckle hadnt seen that mistake myself when i copied and pasted the info
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:26 pm

lol!  I did not spot that either. I had no idea that 16 year olds could claim anything, so I have learned that today.

Every day is a school day (for me study) lol!
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:09 pm

I have noticed a tendency for people to post their queries / requests for help, within the Jobseeker help section. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, it does raise the question of ASSISTED SUPPORT..... section being redundant because there is very little in it (just 3 topics).

I wonder if there is scope for tidying the forum still further by eliminating this section altogether. It still leaves a forum for people to raise queries.

Just a thought.


Edit: looking much more full now I have transferred the queries into it. I will make sure all misplaced queries go into that section from now on Embarassed


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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Brutus on Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:51 am


One of the problems of the old forum was how difficult it was to retrieve information one may remember but not locate.

While search functions helped some solid structure in the organisation of the forum (and some discipline from the user/administration to place their entry in an appropriate section) would greatly help.

Perhaps a synopses of the structure of the forum at some point - where it could be adjourned- could also help.



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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Admin on Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:37 am

Caker wrote:I wonder if there is scope for tidying the forum still further by eliminating this section altogether. It still leaves a forum for people to raise queries.

Just a thought.

Edit: looking much more full now I have transferred the queries into it. I will make sure all misplaced queries go into that section from now on Embarassed

admin was wanting to tidy up anyway to slim line it a bit however as admin realised it makes the forum seem sparse in doing so

the edit of the forums looks much better now and as i see it google and bing are taking note

as goes for the queries everyone posts them where they think they should go im as guilty as anyone admin and mods can easily make mistakes

brutus i have to admit here got no idea on this quote

Perhaps a synopses of the structure of the forum at some point
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:50 pm

Just so everyone knows now:
News goes in NEWS
queries go in ASSISTED SUPPORT.....
Anything found in the wrong place, will be tidied up and put in the right place (by me, the archivist, cataloguer, librarian and bottle washer lol!  ).
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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by El-dudeareno on Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:24 pm

Caker wrote:Just so everyone knows now:
News goes in NEWS
queries go in ASSISTED SUPPORT.....
Anything found in the wrong place, will be tidied up and put in the right place (by me, the archivist, cataloguer, librarian and bottle washer lol!  ).

Now now Caker, any more of this job list, and your need to get the dominatrix emoji back... Embarassed

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Re: The forum seems to have 2 lounges

Post by Caker on Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:27 pm

lol!
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Post by Admin on Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:15 pm

oh I agree el-dude

its ready and waiting as i like that emoticon
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