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Post by Jara on Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:44 pm

@helping_hand
I have sent you a PM with more information Smile

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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by helping_hand on Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:59 pm



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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Jara on Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Great letter helping_hand Smile Hopefully I can get my friend to send it off tomorrow. I will report later on how what the DM decided Smile

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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by helping_hand on Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:16 am

Just in case the DWP official claims the notice was issued, it will be in your friend's interest to request their personal data.

Hand the letter into the Jobcentre and send a copy to the relevant team:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/313444/response/802719/attach/html/4/CRT%20Email%20Address%20List%20Mar%2016.xlsx.html

[Your full address]
[Phone number]

[The date]

[Name and address of the organisation]  


Dear Sir or Madam

Subject access request

[Your full name and NI Number]

Please supply the information about me I am entitled to under the Data Protection Act 1998 relating to my referral to a SWBA on [date] i.e. all letters, DMA including DART submissions, LMS and clerical conversations.

If you need any more information from me, please let me know as soon as possible.

It may be helpful for you to know that a request for information under the Data Protection Act 1998 should be responded to within 40 days.

If you do not normally deal with these requests, please pass this letter to your Data Protection Officer. If you need advice on dealing with this request, the Information Commissioner’s Office can assist you and can be contacted on 0303 123 1113 or at ico.org.uk

Yours faithfully
[Signature]

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/personal-information/


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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Absolut on Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:49 am

Before I went off JSA and onto ESA for my foot op my roach talked about the SBWA but I already knew it was voluntary. I told her I knew it was voluntary and she then shut her trap about it. This current DWP f*ckwittery is a prime example of never accepting a word that any work roach says and to never trust them.

DWP employees can't plead ignorance that the SBWA is voluntary yet they routinely fail to pass on that information, fully aware that by not doing so they are lying by omission. Scumbags, the lot of them.  Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Jara on Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:56 pm

My friend have yet to hear anything from her MR.

Now my friend is in a JSA joint claim with her partner. They usually get roughly £229 each fortnight. Because of the sanction applied they only got £140 last payment. My friend is looking into applying for hardship. I tried looking online for information on how much she will get for hardship but I could only find information for single JSA claimaints Sad

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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Absolut on Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:38 am

Not sure how accurate this is:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/help-if-on-a-low-income/jobseekers-allowance-jsa/jsa-appeals/applying-for-a-jsa-hardship-payment/

You’ll also need to prove that you or your partner will have problems paying for essential living costs. For example if:

   you won’t be able to buy enough food or clothing
   you can’t pay for the heating you need
   your electricity might be disconnected
   you won’t be able to pay rent
   you can’t afford the medication you need

Tell your friend to claim. Clearly reducing a couple's income down to a single payment will result in hardship.

Over 25 Joint JSA is £114.85 per week. It should only be reduced down to single JSA which is at least £73.10 per week. 2 people clearly can't live on £73 a week.
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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by helping_hand on Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:22 am

Joint Claim Couples
35342 The weekly applicable amount of a joint claim couple shall be reduced by a sum
equivalent to the appropriate reduction to the personal allowance for a single
person aged at least 25. The reduction is
1. 20% in a case where a member of the joint claim couple is
1.1. either pregnant or seriously ill or
1.2 a member of a polygamous marriage and one of the members of that
marriage is pregnant or seriously ill or
2. 40% in all other cases.

Example
Elaine claims JSA. She lives with her partner Claire. Elaine and Claire are both
aged 19.
The DM decides that Elaine should be sanctioned because of the reasons why
her previous employer dismissed her. JSA payments are then stopped.
Elaine requests JSA hardship payments. She and Claire are not pregnant. Neither
Elaine or Claire are seriously ill.
The DM decides that Elaine is a person in hardship.
When calculating the applicable amount the DM reduces it by 40% of the personal
allowance for a single person aged 25 or over.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/626757/dmgch35.pdf

The applicable amount in this scenario is, £85.61pw!


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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Jara on Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:53 am

That's interesting. I have probably misunderstood something here, but would this mean with my friends partners JSA (£146.20) and her hardship (£85.61) they will get £232.81 in their next payment? That is about £3 more than they usually getting.. so I must done something wrong trying to calculate this Razz

My friend will be claiming hardship, I just wasn't sure how much she will actually get from it.

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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Absolut on Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:35 am

Joint income when one partner is sanctioned = £73.10 per week (i.e single rate).

This is a loss of £41.75 per week.

Claiming hardship reduces the loss of income by 40%.

40% of £41.75 is £16.70.

Income would be £73.10 for non-sanctioned partner and £16.70 for the sanctioned partner = 89.80 per week for both of them.

I may have got it wrong too Wink

P.S If the non-sanctioned partner works and brings in any income then the sanctioned partner can't claim a hardship payment.



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Re: Friend want to avoid Jobcentre course with a JSA28

Post by Caker on Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:12 am

This thread is now long and has drifted off topic and must close, sorry.

Please feel free to start a new thread to continue the discussion of hardship payments.

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