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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by oneman on Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:28 pm

Yes it was all very easy to do. No account needed to search. I was asked by my work roach to create a account. I questioned if it was mandatory and she said no.
I loved the fact that the verification email turned up in my junk file:lol:

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by MrFrankZola on Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:37 pm

Catwoman wrote:That's easier said then done, as my wc has said she's not intrested in any foi I show her.
Shouting if I spent less time finding out about rules and regulations I would have a job by now.

When referring to DWP FOI disclosures. It may be better to refer to
actual guidance* issued to Work 'Coaches' and mention such in meetings
with a Coach. If refused consider making a written complaint about the 'Coach'
and attach the guidance and possibly make reference to the
statutory Civil Service code ** and DWP's customer charter.***
Or ask to see a manager and if they too refuse add them to any formal written complaint****

Claimant: I would like you to follow your own Work Search Review guidance on Find a job,
here's a copy

Work Coach?

Whatever the culture is in a specific jobcentre, formal complaints should follow clear processes.

* "or other jobsites"

05 Work Search Review
Find a job or other jobsites
1.  As part of making use of the resources available to them to look for work, we can
reasonably expect most claimants to make best use of Find a job or other
jobsites.  
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/479339/response/1158772/attach/6/Annex%202.pdf (pdf)
Consider printing out the pdf, as it will not show the FOI origin, or just show the extract above.
Related 'Find a job' guidance: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/adzunas_find_a_job_technology_jo#incoming-1158772

** "As a civil servant, you are appointed on merit on the basis of fair and open competition and are expected to carry out your role with dedication and a commitment to the Civil Service and its core values: integrity, honesty, objectivity and impartiality. In this code:

   ‘integrity’ is putting the obligations of public service above your own personal interests
   ‘honesty’ is being truthful and open
   ‘objectivity’ is basing your advice and decisions on rigorous analysis of the evidence
   ‘impartiality’ is acting solely according to the merits of the case and serving equally well governments of different political persuasions
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-code/the-civil-service-code

*** DWP's customer charter

Right treatment
"Follow processes correctly"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/our-customer-charter

****Complaints procedure
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/complaints-procedure

You can also make an online complaint about Jobseeker’s Allowance and Universal Credit
https://makeacomplaint.dwp.gov.uk/

You can also include in any complaint how you want matters resolved. IE: References to "other" jobsites.

All of this raises the questions of whether the 'Coach' has actually made any proposals to add 'Find a job' to a claimant commitment?

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by MrFrankZola on Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:41 pm

oneman wrote:Yes it was all very easy to do. No account needed to search. I was asked by my work roach to create a account. I questioned if it was mandatory and she said no.
I loved the fact that the verification email turned up in my junk file:lol:  

That sounds really good.

If possible, please copy and paste what you current claimant commitment says about jobsites. Curious to know if references are made to other jobsites, besides likes of Jobmatch.

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by oneman on Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:49 pm

Claimant commitment, Frank! Whats that! Wink

I was asked to sign one back in 2015 but was unable to because I could not read and understand what was writen on it. That was the last I have heard about it. This begs the question how am I getting Job seekers allowence without a signed CC as stated in the regs? Laughing

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by MrFrankZola on Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:09 pm

oneman wrote:Claimant commitment, Frank! Whats that! Wink

I was asked to sign one back in 2015 but was unable to because I could not read and understand what was writen on it. That was the last I have heard about it. This begs the question how am I getting Job seekers allowence without a signed CC as stated in the regs? Laughing

Understand new regs allow a JSAg and CC to be 'accepted' by various means. Your situation is odd.

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by oneman on Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:18 pm

It's all a load of rubbish Frank. It was just that liar, George smiths Idea to get us all to conform without changing any legislation. Everything he touches turns to shit. UJ is down the pan. UC has cost 19.5 BILLION! and isn't looking promising. It's a shame he is promoting Brexit as I can see what is going to happen there.

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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by Admin on Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:02 am

I believe there is more to the story frank

oneman was around the cait reily saga and had a few back payments to be appealed due to those references
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Re: opening an account on find a job

Post by Admin on Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:03 am

DWP says: ‘Find A Job’ findajob.dwp.gov.uk can be used with “cookies turned off”?

but also note

Even though an “authentication” may not require user consent [2] because
they are “essential to provide an online service at someone’s request”, FAJ requires consent to place all the other FAJ cookies on a users device, therefore setting a browser to block cookies [3] will also block “authentication” and therefore it will not be possible
to sign-in and then set up an FAJ account[4], create a profile or upload a CV.

https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2018/06/12/dwp-says-find-a-job-findajob-dwp-gov-uk-can-be-used-with-cookies-turned-off/
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