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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Fri May 11, 2018 5:22 pm

zoomed in further on pics

you can see date and time stamp on applied data



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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Jara on Fri May 11, 2018 6:08 pm

I can certainly see work coaches asking why there was only 5 minutes between each activity. Or something like that.

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Fri May 11, 2018 11:16 pm

find a job is fully sanctionable

if you was to provide dwp with direct access to your account as the account is fully trackable

log ins
what jobs you have applied for
uploaded cvs
ip addresses used
and a whole lot more


as goes for non direct access you need to use screen grab never screen print as this provides exactly the same info as allowing them access to your account

however screen grab then edit in a photo program or paint program on a pc and thats a different matter altogether as all you need to do is blacken them or whiten them so they cannot be read before you print them off via your pc


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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Fri May 11, 2018 11:23 pm

new videos released on 11th

create an account



jobsearching



applying for a job



upload a cv




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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Fri May 11, 2018 11:27 pm

add a team member reference for dwp providers



employers find a job



employers login account



employers manage account

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Fri May 11, 2018 11:32 pm

heres the link to the new jobsearch site

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/

at moment it shows this

Service unavailable

You will be able to use the new service from the 14th May 2018.

To use the existing service please visit https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk.
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by ABC on Sat May 12, 2018 8:56 am

Thanks Gadily I've bookmarked it in case my work coach insists I use it. Strangely no mention of it from him yet though!
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Non Deficere on Sat May 12, 2018 9:08 am

The same challenges can be applied to the new site in regards to whether it provides a better service to people seeking work.

I note MI5/MI6 chose Indeed to advertise their vacancies and use the paid for service! LoL!

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 8:15 am

its live as of 8.00am

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 8:19 am

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 8:22 am

on the site there was no cookie exceptance or warning on my visit that you have to except it or if you continue to use the site the cookie will be an excepted policy

there was no direction to the cookie policy either

i choose to go direct to the bottom of the page and go from there

You can search for jobs without setting up an account. But setting up an account means you can:

apply for jobs
upload CVs
keep a record of your job searches and applications
use it to discuss your work search activity if you’re claiming Universal Credit or Jobseeker’s Allowance
create email alerts
save jobs to apply for later

If you already have a Universal Jobmatch account, you'll still need to set up a new account with 'Find a job'.

for your info

you can search the site without creating an account on the site
also it looks similar to the old jobsearch site before ujm
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 8:51 am

i have also done a quick few job searches and to be honest it provides you with other non specific job searches when your doing a search for your required field of job

as you will see by the pics below some of those job search criteria does not match your field of expertise and i cant see the need for them being included within your jobsearches




the sites cookie scan

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and these below

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Mon May 14, 2018 4:12 pm

all foi requests so far to do with find a job site

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/new_find_a_job_website_and_sanct

Will new 'find a job' website jobs scraping site allow Jobcentre coaches to log in &see benefit claimants Activity under any situation? https://youtu.be/bf6ZBHh64Cw?t=42s (View the job searches, job ads and job applications) https://youtu.be/bf6ZBHh64Cw?t=49s
Can coaches make it a benefit requirement to print out the Activity records, for JSA or UC claimers? What sanctions exist for refusing to provide a print out of the Activity and show it to a Coach? Will a coach have the right to keep a copy of the Activity record under any situation?

Will 'find a job' include Jobs ADs based on scraping third party websites, like on the Adzuna website? If a benefit claimants refuses to use 'find a job' because they do not want to see Third Party Job ADS can they get sanction if mandated or expected to use the site by a Coach or
in a claimant commitment?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/find_a_job_cookies_online_identi

Andrew Wilson 14 May 2018
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Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

Even when asked by you to create a 'Find a job' account and upload my CV as part of a JSA or transfer to UC claim, without a shadow of a doubt I will never accept 'Find a job' cookies on any DWP controlled device or any associated ISP at a DWP location or or other devices at a library, my home or anywhere else. I am not very happy for any JSA or UC claim to also be associated to my IP address or other online identifiers and for you to ask or expect me to share with you any 'Find a job' record of job applications I make or job search activity or saved jobs history if you
can force me to create an account, accept these cookies or upload my CV. So will you then suspend, disentitle or sanction any live in-payment JSA or transfer to UC claim I have due to not wanting to do what you may ask outlined above and why can you do this?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/find_a_job_service_voluntary_or

Stephen Toy 14 May 2018
Unknown

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

On the 14th May 2018 the Find-a-Job website, destined to replace the invasive and woeful Universal Jobmatch service, goes live and can be used by interested parties. My question is simple:

Will use of the new Find-a-Job service be voluntary or mandatory in respect to Universal Credit claimants even if such claimants do not consent voluntarily to have their activities on the website tracked on-line or have their personal data stored, manipulated, processed or used otherwise by Adzuna on behalf of the DWP?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/adzunas_find_a_job_technology_jo

Adzuna's Find-A-Job technology: Jobcentre Work 'Coach' user account access and social security entitlement, disallowance and sanctions

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/find_a_job

S M Hall 9 May 2018
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Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

Is the new 'Find A Job' website a mandatory requirement for a claimant to make an account ?

Yours faithfully,

S M Hall

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/find_a_job_government_gateway_ac

Jo Walker 4 May 2018
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Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

With regard to the soon to be introduced Government Gateway 'Find a Job' service, can you please forward me a copy of the terms and conditions that users are obliged to sign to access the service.

Yours faithfully,

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/find_a_job_2

Dave Petter 9 May 2018
Delivered

Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

Please email me the information and guidance available to work coaches about the Find a job
service. Like or equal to the Jobmatch Toolkit
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Tarquin Flotsam on Mon May 14, 2018 4:54 pm

Jara wrote:I can certainly see work coaches asking why there was only 5 minutes between each activity. Or something like that.
And I'd have the perfect response to them if I was asked this. Firstly I'd ask if this is the only site I should use for searching for jobs. Secondly I'd ask if this new site can miracously record my activity on other job sites.
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Absolut on Tue May 15, 2018 7:17 am

FaJ is a worse job search site than UJM which I didn't think was possible.

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Tue May 15, 2018 11:49 pm

frank zolas questions has been answered

The recorded information we hold that best answers your question about the type of access DWP and Jobcentre Work Coaches will have to claimant accounts can be found in the extract below from the Find a job Delivery Implementation Guide which says:

“DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history.”

The recorded information we hold that best answers your other questions is contained in the instructions for work coaches who deal with Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and Universal Credit (UC) claimants in Annexes 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 for JSA claimants and Annexes 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 for UC claimants included with this reply. For ease of reference, the relevant information has been highlighted.

thankyou frank for foi info
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Absolut on Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 am

I signed on yesterday afternoon and in relation to FaJ I asked about there being no text box for work search activity purposes. The roach was really happy about them no longer having to "look at screens" and she said they will be "going back to having conversations" about work search activity. I asked how I was to provide evidence of job search then and she waved vaguely at the signing on booklet (which I never use) saying that could be filled in. However, she did accept that a different form (excel spreadsheet) would be acceptable. I know that under JSA rules I can provide evidence in any manner I choose Very Happy. I also know that they aren't going to read through half a dozen spreadsheet pages every fortnight, so at my next signing on session I will submit a 'summary' of my activity and see what they say about it. They've never bothered to read through a fortnight's worth of UJM data, so I don't see them reading through paper-based data either Wink.

There was no mention of my having to sign up to use FaJ nor was my CC changed to remove searching UJM daily.
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Wed May 16, 2018 8:51 am

lol sounds like most dwp personal have no idea whats going on

DWP ‘Find a job’ is mandatory for claimants? However, “DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history”

https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/dwp-find-a-job-is-mandatory-for-claimants-however-dwp-staff-will-not-have-access-to-view-jobseeker-accounts-cvs-or-activity-application-history/
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Admin on Wed May 16, 2018 9:08 am

The two-year contract to provide the technology behind the government’s new job-search service was worth £5.8m, newly published documents reveal.

The contract was won in March by jobs search engine Adzuna, which beat off competition from website Monster and software firm Hireserve. Adzuna’s search technology will now provide the engine for the government’s ‘Find a job’ service, which has been built to replace the Department for Work and Pension’s Universal Jobmatch website.

https://publictechnology.net/articles/news/adzuna%E2%80%99s-contract-government-jobs-service-valued-%C2%A358m

5.8m for that jobsite faj got to be a bloody joke

on about the government being a joke there spending stupid amounts on many jobsites that arnt worth a toss there crap
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by osris on Fri May 18, 2018 3:24 pm

Absolut wrote:I signed on yesterday afternoon and in relation to FaJ I asked about there being no text box for work search activity purposes. The roach was really happy about them no longer having to "look at screens" and she said they will be "going back to having conversations" about work search activity. I asked how I was to provide evidence of job search then and she waved vaguely at the signing on booklet (which I never use) saying that could be filled in. However, she did accept that a different form (excel spreadsheet) would be acceptable. I know that under JSA rules I can provide evidence in any manner I choose Very Happy. I also know that they aren't going to read through half a dozen spreadsheet pages every fortnight, so at my next signing on session I will submit a 'summary' of my activity and see what they say about it. They've never bothered to read through a fortnight's worth of UJM data, so I don't see them reading through paper-based data either Wink.

There was no mention of my having to sign up to use FaJ nor was my CC changed to remove searching UJM daily.

Will you sign up to FAJ if asked to?

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by osris on Fri May 18, 2018 3:30 pm

Admin wrote:lol sounds like most dwp personal have no idea whats going on

DWP ‘Find a job’ is mandatory for claimants? However, “DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history”

https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/dwp-find-a-job-is-mandatory-for-claimants-however-dwp-staff-will-not-have-access-to-view-jobseeker-accounts-cvs-or-activity-application-history/

Hi, I’m new here.

I saw my work coach yesterday and she didn’t mention FAJ. From what I’ve heard Jobcentre staff don’t seem to have been given the “party line” yet about FAJ.

I’m confused over what the DWP says about FAJ access:

“DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history.”

To be a an unambiguous reply it should say:

“DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history if DWP staff ask for it and jobseekers refuse to give it.”

Or

“DWP staff currently have no access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history, but if DWP staff ask for it, jobseekers must give it.”

If the FOI reply had been one of the two answers, things would be much clearer.

Maybe they want us all to be confused.

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Non Deficere on Fri May 18, 2018 5:30 pm

osris wrote:
Admin wrote:lol sounds like most dwp personal have no idea whats going on

DWP ‘Find a job’ is mandatory for claimants? However, “DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history”

https://mrfrankzola.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/dwp-find-a-job-is-mandatory-for-claimants-however-dwp-staff-will-not-have-access-to-view-jobseeker-accounts-cvs-or-activity-application-history/

Hi, I’m new here.

I saw my work coach yesterday and she didn’t mention FAJ. From what I’ve heard Jobcentre staff don’t seem to have been given the “party line” yet about FAJ.

I’m confused over what the DWP says about FAJ access:

“DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history.”

To be a an unambiguous reply it should say:

“DWP staff will not have access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history if DWP staff ask for it and jobseekers refuse to give it.”

Or

“DWP staff currently have no access to view jobseeker accounts, CVs or activity/application history, but if DWP staff ask for it, jobseekers must give it.”

If the FOI reply had been one of the two answers, things would be much clearer.

Maybe they want us all to be confused.

Hello and welcome osris!

Unlike UJM there is no facility within FAJ to give DWP staff unfettered access to a FAJ account. DWP staff can only see your account details if you choose to show all your activity via A DWP computer/your iphone or by providing screen prints.
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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by osris on Fri May 18, 2018 6:53 pm

Hi,

If that is the case, do you need to register with FAJ at all then? What would be the point of doing so? You could just use other job sites like Indeed etc.

Will you be sanctioned if you refuse to register with FAJ?

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Re: DWP signs Adzuna for Universal Jobmatch

Post by Absolut on Sun May 20, 2018 8:18 am

osris wrote:Will you sign up to FAJ if asked to?

Hi and welcome to the forum. Good to see more people joining here.

To answer your question - if a vacancy appears on FaJ that I can't apply for in any other way before my next signing on date then it's highly likely that I will create an account in order to apply for that job. If I haven't created an account by my next signing on date and I am "asked" to do so then it will have to be via a new CC. They abandoned UJM, not us, so it's their job to reflect that in new CCs. I have no problem creating a FaJ account and uploading a CV to it. I did it with UJM and I'm not going to take a stand over a site that is far less intrusive than UJM was.
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